Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:41 pmWOW , this comes has as a major surprise . "Great" timing by uefa , all the best to those who are traveling
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:41 pmPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:45 pmEngland is refusing to play a friendly with Spain in Madrid due to the same racist abuse issues when they played in 2004 (what makes it funnier is that they came out before the match with anti racism banners). Not really good enough even though many Spanish fans do not share that narrow minded opinion.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:11 pmkazza wrote:England is refusing to play a friendly with Spain in Madrid due to the same racist abuse issues when they played in 2004 (what makes it funnier is that they came out before the match with anti racism banners). Not really good enough even though many Spanish fans do not share that narrow minded opinion.
It would be good for the anti-racism campaign if footballers of the nation concerned spoke out about it and condemned it. Last I heard only Rio and Heskey (?) complained about the abuse, it's not as if racists are likely to listen to their victims - although the UK government were talking about victims meeting with the offenders in this country. We've a few Spaniards in our team, I hope they don't take the easy option and keep quiet
NB : I could dig around to check for comments, I am basing the above on what I have seen, read or heard and so apologies if someone has said something I've suggested they haven't etc
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:18 pmNot often i'd agree with Rio Ferdinand ,but Uefa should just Dock the club points , it'll soon stop . This what they've done is stupid . The security situation is going to be ten times worse . Instead of one set of fans travelling to the stadium and the security that brings . Now youir going to have two sets mixing and travelling together , nightmare scenario springs to mind.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:24 pmThe bad thing about Valencia are their cops. It's not the same for me to go as an away crowd to Valencia or to Santander. In Valencia they use the truncheons earlier. The worst are in Zaragoza, though.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:26 pmSabre wrote:The bad thing about Valencia are their cops. It's not the same for me to go as an away crowd to Valencia or to Santander. In Valencia they use the battoons earlier. The worst are in Zaragoza, though.
Was it Sevilla vs spudz in the UEFA Cup a few seasons ago where they did just that with little provocation, probably a spudz fan with a lazy eye "looked funny" at one of their policemen and in they went all guns blazing - well batons
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:29 pmUEFA are doing the right thing by taking strong actions against the clubs that have these low life scumbags following them. But at the end of the day it's the Liverpool fans paying the price for Atleti's racist followers. 
Radio City have just interviewed the William Gaylord numptie, in the bit I heard he was asked why can't the game be played in Madrid but just lock the home fans out and let the travelling kopites in. Gaylord's response was "erm, we don't have a law for that".
You just couldn't make it up, not in a month of Sundays!!
Radio City have just interviewed the William Gaylord numptie, in the bit I heard he was asked why can't the game be played in Madrid but just lock the home fans out and let the travelling kopites in. Gaylord's response was "erm, we don't have a law for that".
You just couldn't make it up, not in a month of Sundays!!
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:48 pmRUSHIE#9 wrote:UEFA are doing the right thing by taking strong actions against the clubs that have these low life scumbags following them. But at the end of the day it's the Liverpool fans paying the price for Atleti's racist followers.
Radio City have just interviewed the William Gaylord numptie, in the bit I heard he was asked why can't the game be played in Madrid but just lock the home fans out and let the travelling kopites in. Gaylord's response was "erm, we don't have a law for that".
You just couldn't make it up, not in a month of Sundays!!
The funny thing is that this time there weren't racist chants. I don't like the nazis that are behind their goal because they normally are racist, I hate them. But in that game I couldn't hear anything racist (in tv anyway).
I think it all started with the Kun, Kun, Kun shout to support Agüero, and the Marseille fans answered back thinking it was a racist insult and then there was the Spanish police intervention.
Funny, they are punnished when they behave well.
Reina and Torres are upset because they both had game tickets promised and bookings done.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:13 pmWhile I sympathize with all the travel headaches this is going to cause, I feel bad for Torres even more. In an interview I read he said that a dream of his was to play against his old club at their ground (This was before the draw). To make these changes so late is a bit shortsighted.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:51 pmRUSHIE#9 wrote:UEFA are doing the right thing by taking strong actions against the clubs that have these low life scumbags following them. But at the end of the day it's the Liverpool fans paying the price for Atleti's racist followers. :
how about us, non-racist Atletico supporters??
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:54 pmMLPD wrote:RUSHIE#9 wrote:UEFA are doing the right thing by taking strong actions against the clubs that have these low life scumbags following them. But at the end of the day it's the Liverpool fans paying the price for Atleti's racist followers. :
how about us, non-racist Atletico supporters??
well you'll have to answer for your own kind (as in AM supporters)...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:00 pmMLPD wrote:RUSHIE#9 wrote:UEFA are doing the right thing by taking strong actions against the clubs that have these low life scumbags following them. But at the end of the day it's the Liverpool fans paying the price for Atleti's racist followers. :
how about us, non-racist Atletico supporters??
Keep that way, and point out with the finger the racists even more.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:01 pmah, Sabre, you surely know that is not so easy ...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:03 pmBecause they're violent. Yeh I know. That's where the club and the authorities have to be harder with those groups.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:42 pmCerezo the Atletico chairman is confident that the game will be held in the Calderon and the punnishment will be applied after that.
Liverpool's official response and Atletico's resort to the decission might delay the punnishment.
UEFA has to rectify because the Liverpool fans haven't to pay others' errors. At least the punnishment should be delayed.
Liverpool's official response and Atletico's resort to the decission might delay the punnishment.
UEFA has to rectify because the Liverpool fans haven't to pay others' errors. At least the punnishment should be delayed.