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Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:58 amby JamCar05
GYBS wrote:Ace Ventura wrote:Ciggy wrote:Hes having the op when the international break is so he will miss Englands games not ours.
Some tw@t reporter on SSN now saying how dare Liverpool choose for him to miss the England games
Feck off kunthook.
So what games is he likely to miss for us ?
just the villa game will be back for man utd
I sure hope he will! Wouldn't want to go into that game without Stevie. Though he hasn't exactly been at his best against the mancs over the last few years imo, I would still dread to think of us NOT having him in the team, especially the way we're playing at the moment. He's one of the few players, who MIGHT just deliver that little extra ingredient, which we will definitely need to finally get a good result against them.
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:02 amby stmichael
Anything apart from 4-4-2. If we play 4-4-2 at the weekend against Villa we'll get turned over good and proper.
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:15 amby spion
Back against Manure in two weeks according to Benitez. If we beat Villa at the weekend then that game could make a bit difference at the end of the season. So early in the season & we could be looking at getting a four point lead already.
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:12 pmby RUSHIE#9
Ciggy wrote:Hes having the op when the international break is so he will miss Englands games not ours.
Some tw@t reporter on SSN now saying how dare Liverpool choose for him to miss the England games
Feck off kunthook.
Why the fuck do they care?? They were on there last week asking people to phone with resons why he only turns his form on for Liverpool and never for England. If the lad had some sense he'd do a Carragher and tell Capello to do one if he isn't played in his proper position.
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:46 pmby GYBS
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:28 pmby Toffeehater
peewee wrote:Ciggy wrote:Hes having the op when the international break is so he will miss Englands games not ours.
Some tw@t reporter on SSN now saying how dare Liverpool choose for him to miss the England games
Feck off kunthook.
england abuse gerrard anyway by making him have to fit in with fat frank. when they start putting gerrard first and drop that fat kunt then they can complain about his absence
Exactly , and in order to accommodate both fat frank and gerrard , they've sacrificed gerrard and shifted him on the left where he was still England's man of the match whereas fat frank did nothing in his natural position , wake up and smell the coffee capello 
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:34 pmby Toffeehater
I'd go the for this team
Reina
Carragher Agger Skrtel Dossena
Masch Xabi
El zhar/Kuyt Babel
Keane
Torres
I think this is the best team we can put out at the moment with gerrard injured , i honestly can't see us winning against villa without stevie , a draw might be a good reason or unless the lads step and start to take responsibility . Keane needs to relax and stop trying so hard , he's capable of better . Switch back to the 4-5-1 , put el zhar on the right and babel on the left , riera will not play even if he signs before the villa game so stick with babel on the left and if rafa does not feel keane can play as second striker put kuyt there , at least he's used to the formation , we need to beat villa and show that we can win without stevie as well
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:35 pmby Number 9
Who gives a fu'ck about England and their qualifier!
They may qualify but have no chance of winning it anyway.Steven Gerrard is paid about £100k a week by LFC,he's our player and if he needs treatment he gets when LFC say so.England games dont come into the equation!
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:29 pmby shakey
Couldnt agree more,Club comes before Country!
With Stevie out of the Villa game,i just hope a few of the others can stand up & be counted on when we really need them.
Most of us would die to put on that red shirt & play for this club,lets hope they will do the same 
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:16 pmby Simari
Another reason I am curious about formations without Gerrard, is because Rafa will rest him for certain games during the season.
We cannot afford to look clueless when he's not around, regardless of whether it is an injury or just getting a breather.
I am interested in seeing if Rafa will actually rotate Keane / Kuyt as support strikers and have the team benefit from El-Zhar's skills against mid-table or lower opposition.
It is quite possible that Rafa may not risk Gerrard for the Man U game, at the expense of losing him for further games following that. If he isn't fit, there isn't any point in forcing him to play as it could end up being another performance similar to yesterday - where he wasn't really firing on all cylinders for most of the game.
And club before country for sure ! Owen Hargreaves had no hesitation clearly stating where his loyalties are, first and foremost - with the Mancs.
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:44 pmby Scottbot
This is isn't the exact team i'd look to play but bearing in mind that Rafa will stick with the likes of Kuyt and Arbeloa it's the team i'd like to see. Give Torres back his freedom and afford Keane the same luxury to roam. Start Babel, he looked very rusty (that's being polite). Aurelio needs a run of games and must play on the left.
Reina
Arbeloa Carra Agger Aurelio
Mascherano Alonso
Kuyt Keane Babel
Torres
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:31 pmby LFC2007
Alonso-Mascherano pairing, Torres-Keane pairing, and around that there isn't much to choose between them. Kuyt, Benayoun, Babel, Pennant, El Zhar, Ngog... take your pick. OR we could style it by accommodating Lucas somehow.
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:49 pmby JC_81
stmichael wrote:Anything apart from 4-4-2. If we play 4-4-2 at the weekend against Villa we'll get turned over good and proper.
We don't have the personnel to effectively play anything other than 4-4-2 without Gerrard imo.
For Villa I'd go with:
Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Skrtel Dossena
Kuyt Mascherano Alonso Babel
Keane
Torres
El Zhar has impressed me, but might be best used as an impact sub at the moment. I think we need to try and play Keane into some form, so I would have him on the team, even if it's not on merit. Strangely I think Gerrard being out might be good for Keane right now. He'll have to take on a bit more responsibility and get on the ball a bit more. Benayoun should be dropped, and I have an irrational dislike of Aurelio so I'd get Dossena back in.
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Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:29 amby Fowler_E7
john craig wrote:stmichael wrote:Anything apart from 4-4-2. If we play 4-4-2 at the weekend against Villa we'll get turned over good and proper.
We don't have the personnel to effectively play anything other than 4-4-2 without Gerrard imo.
For Villa I'd go with:
Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Skrtel Dossena
Kuyt Mascherano Alonso Babel
Keane
Torres
El Zhar has impressed me, but might be best used as an impact sub at the moment. I think we need to try and play Keane into some form, so I would have him on the team, even if it's not on merit. Strangely I think Gerrard being out might be good for Keane right now. He'll have to take on a bit more responsibility and get on the ball a bit more. Benayoun should be dropped, and I have an irrational dislike of Aurelio so I'd get Dossena back in.
kuyt in the side? if anyone needs dropping its him, but Rafa will never do it
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