Posted:
Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:59 pm
by maypaxvobiscum
ok im not advocating the sale of Gerrard. the team will lose alot of its identity by selling its mascot, its icon. but he certainly hasnt been playing up to his level this season. perhaps its injury then thats not his fault. i do wish he gets back to his best soon though. the reason why i mentioned what i did above was because ive seen certain posters in the past comment on how he had let one off to a team mate when something does not go his way. i remember Garcia being on the receiving end of one.
EmR, Figo left for £37 million. Zidane left for €78 million like you said. but i honestly doubt any team would fork out that much for Gerrard. perhaps he would be around the Figo range. besides, with other younger players such as Fabregas, Nasri, Ireland, Mata, Banega, Iniesta, etc playing in a similar position the rich clubs are filled with options. the fact that Gerrard is so affiliated with Liverpool is also a factor. its like trying to convince Raul or Guti to join another team other then RM.
Posted:
Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:07 pm
by Emerald Red
I was speaking of Euros, and it was close. Was actually 66 million Euro. In the current economic climate, that's a right chunk of change converting to pounds.
Posted:
Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:30 pm
by account deleted by request
Emerald Red wrote:Are you taking the p*ss? Alonso loyal? Alonso is no villian by any stretch of the imagination, and he certainly gave us more than we were due by spending five years with us, but for a player to openly hand in his transfere request is not being loyal, particularly having made it clear some time before that he wanted to go back to Spain at some point in the near future, and yes, I am talking before the Barry fiasco. This is not conjecture either. This is a fact stated by players Alonso was closest to in the camp. Again, to use Alonso as the root of our problems is extremely narrow, and short minded. Alonso wanted to leave. Benitez brought the player in from Sociedad when he was relatively an unknown, moulded him into one of the most recognized holding players on the planet, and made three times the profit on what he bought him for and held out to get that simply because he was worth that price. If a player wishes to leave, there is nothing the manager can do other than get a good deal.
I remember at one time on this forum when the likes of Lando, Nanny etc etc constantly jumped to the defense of the Spaniard when he was often labelled as "not good enough" and "limited" by a certain party on here (can't remember specifically, but critisism was rife). I remember that the move for Barry being widely accepted by most, while other's, and some that I've mentioned, were critical of it and constantly stateing the importance of Alonso in the squad. So, now that Alonso is gone, I find it interesting that opinion has changed, and those that were slating Alonso are now saying that our current undoing is down to Benitez not keeping hold of him, and that he was our rock afterall? Some of you lot are more capricious than the weather these days.
Your missing the point though Emerald.
Rafa wanted to sell Alonso .....not for 3 times his price, but for between £14 and £16million when he was after Barry.
Rafa then replaced Alonso with an injured player that has played 45mins since he joined us.
Alonso had 2 good years out of 5 with us (I personally don't think he was that good in his first season either)
We EVENTUALLY got a good price for him, but before his last excellent season for us we couldn't get £15million for him.
My opinion of Alonso hasn't changed, I thought he was a good player who had two poor seasons on the trot before Rafa first tried to sell him.
I find it strange that people are trying to defend Rafa by talking about Barry rather than the injured player that Rafa paid almost double the price we could have got Barry for.
Posted:
Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:29 pm
by Sir Roger
So
Alonso was loyal because he wanted to go for some time, but ended up giving us five years and least he gave Benitez the time to negotiate a good price. But in your opinion he tarnished that by abruptly handing in his transfer on such a short notice.
Fair enough
Still rather have him than Barry