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Man for man - How do we rate?
Posted:
Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:20 pmby Sir Roger
If we put our strongest eleven against the mancs or chelski who is the best team
I would say this is our strongest eleven:
Reina
Arbeloa
Skirtl
Garragher
Aurellio
Kuyt
Gerrard
Alonso
Mascherano
Benayoun
Torres
If you put the other teams best eleven against them man for man who would come out on top?
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:01 amby JC_81
How the fu.ck is this relevant either? 
Can you win the league with 11 players?
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:12 amby account deleted by request
I think we should argue about our best eleven a bit more first mate. I would have Agger in there(when fit) and Riera in place of either Kuyt or Bennayoun (your choice) 
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:13 amby JC_81
Sir Roger wrote:If we put our strongest eleven against the mancs or chelski who is the best team
I would say this is our strongest eleven:
Reina
Arbeloa
Skirtl
Garragher
Aurellio
Kuyt
Gerrard
Alonso
Mascherano
Benayoun
Torres
If you put the other teams best eleven against them man for man who would come out on top?
Might not have Garragher at the back
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:16 amby Sir Roger
john craig wrote:Sir Roger wrote:If we put our strongest eleven against the mancs or chelski who is the best team
I would say this is our strongest eleven:
Reina
Arbeloa
Skirtl
Garragher
Aurellio
Kuyt
Gerrard
Alonso
Mascherano
Benayoun
Torres
If you put the other teams best eleven against them man for man who would come out on top?
Might not have Garragher at the back
If he changes his name would you think about it?
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:18 amby Sir Roger
s@int wrote:I think we should argue about our best eleven a bit more first mate. I would have Agger in there(when fit) and Riera in place of either Kuyt or Bennayoun (your choice)
Its up to you who you think is the strongest eleven
My point is how do they compare with other teams strongest eleven?
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:42 amby Greavesie
just one thing that constantly gets spelt wrong, its spelt Skrtel
Id put Agger in our strongest 11 personally, maybe Benny in for Kuyt. Even looking at the best 11 the positions which we need to strengthen are obvious
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:57 amby account deleted by request
Reina Van der sar Cech very close all three great goalkeepers
Arbeloa Neville Bosingwa I just went for him because he cost a lot
Aurelio Evra Cole close between Evra and Cole
Agger Vidic Terry close between all three when fit
Carra Ferdinand Carvaliho Ferdinand and Carvaliho are different class unfortunately
Riera Ronaldo Malouda Ronaldo by a mile
Alonso Carrick Essien Essien by a mile
Masch Anderson Mikel
Gerrard Scholes Lampard would have been closer but for age catching up with Scholes
Kuyt Rooney Ballack both different class to Kuyt
Torres Berbatov Drogba Torres who else
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:57 amby Mikz
I would play it like this
Van der sar between the sticks
Carragher over Neville and bosingwa
Evra over aurelio and cole
Ferdinand over Skrtel and Carvalho
Terry over Agger and vidic
Gerrard over Lampard and Scholes
Essien over Masch and carrick
Ronaldo over Malouda and riera
Giggs over mikel and Benny
torres over drogba and berbetov
Rooney over kuyt and Ballack
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:46 amby aCe'
Using Saint's post with a few differences in roles and comparisons.. id go for this...
Reina Van der sar Cech Cech by some distance, then VDS then Reina
Arbeloa Brown Bosingwa Bosingwa by some distance then Brown then Arby
Aurelio Evra Cole Close between Evra and Cole
Agger Vidic Terry close between Vidic and an in-form Terry, no agger.
Carra Ferdinand Carvalho Ferdinand and Carvalho are different class
Kuyt Ronaldo Kalou Ronaldo by a mile
Alonso Scholes Ballack Close between all 3...maybe not...Scholes by a mile!
Masch Carrick Essien Essien by a mile
Gerrard Rooney Anelka Gerrard for me, Rooney not far behind
Riera Park Lampard Lamps by a mile
Torres Berbatov Drogba Torres by a distance
5 Manutd players (surprise, surprise!), and 4 Chelsea and only 2 Liverpool players (Gerrard and Torres...again surprise, surprise!)...
Shame Rooney, Drogba, Giggs, Masch, Deco, Terry and Ballack couldnt make the side though....
Anyways incase you were wondering the side sets up in a 4-5-1 ...something like this
Cech
Bos Vidic Rio Evra
Scholes Essien
Gerrard Lamps Ronaldo
Torres
im guessin the 4upfront shouldnt have trouble scoring and you could easily have Rooney in there for fat frank so no worries...
more to the point though... wasnt even a contest picking between some fo our players and the manc and chelsea lads... except for Gerrard, Torres, maybe Alonso and Masch, the others were all miles behind and wouldnt even be considered when picking such a side.. shame really and shows how lacking in quality our side is... well in comparison anyways.. Throw Arsenal in the mix ans you see how only ONE player from their side makes the starting 11 (Fabregas) and you sort of get the picture as to why its been us and them fighting it out for 3rd and 4th in recent times...
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:17 pmby Bad Bob
I'd personally take Reina ahead of Cech and Van Der Sar. It's a close run thing, as all are top keepers. But, I like Reina's mobility, distribution and prowess in penalty shootouts. 
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:18 pmby dawson99
Bad Bob wrote:I'd personally take Reina ahead of Cech and Van Der Sar. It's a close run thing, as all are top keepers. But, I like Reina's mobility, distribution and prowess in penalty shootouts.
A lot of people think Cech is the same keeper he was before his injury. Truth is he flaps a bit now and wont dive in as much. He's got the fear.
Posted:
Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:45 pmby ConnO'var
It's hard for me to do a direct comparison, apple for apple so to speak as I think with our current squad, our best line up is not a classic 4-4-2 but a 4-5-1..... I actually think we'd be great for a 5-3-2 if we hadn't gotten rid of Keane but that's a another story. As the Mancs and Chelsea don't use it at the moment, a simplistic comparison of 4-4-2s would definitely err in their favour.
In that event, I'd say s@int's ratings are pretty much spot on. If we set up all 3 teams in a 4-2-3-1 however, we'd probably get more players in the 1st team..... at least 3.... Masch, Gerrard and Torres.
Also agree that Cech is not as good as he used to be. Going by this season's performance, there can be no doubt in my mind that the league's number 1 man between the sticks is Van Der Saar.
