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by **stmichael** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:20 am

congratulations to fat sam.

the first manager ever to leave nicolas anelka before nicolas anelka left the manager.

by **Elchris** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:46 pm

dawson99 wrote:England doesnt need a good manager... just an inspirational one if you ask me.

True , i agree 100%

He has great passion and a good motivator

Can't imagine seeing mclaren lifting player , he's too al gore

by **Owzat** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:17 am

dawson99 wrote:England doesnt need a good manager... just an inspirational one if you ask me.

We saw what passion and inspiration achieves with Keegan in charge.

England's best two managers in the past 20 years were both English (TV and SBR) BUT had success with European football clubs as well as English clubs. So my view is get someone in who knows about football home and abroad. Knowing enough to get top half in the Premiership isn't going to be enough to manage England.

What does Allardyce or Pearce know about playing in Europe or indeed dealing with the primadonnas that make up the England side? Bolton have a few talked-up for England players, Man City have Richards and have had the odd future or ex England player in their team. We see what happens with McClueless, he had Downing and Southgate achieving some European success in the equivalent of the Carling Cup BUT his CV was pretty ordinary. Maybe England would have lost in Croatia regardless who was in charge but it's the way we lose games or indeed draw or scrape through games that has the brandmark of SGE all over it.

What we need is someone who can relate to and counteract foreign teams and tactics so an understanding of English football isn't necessarily a must. Rafa has proven understanding the English game is not so easy but he's shown his knowledge of European football and we're in a second Champions League final compared to one from Taggart in many more tries. It might almost be beneficial to get a top foreign coach to part time help at an English club while managing England in order to get a feel for the English game while retaining his understanding of the way foreign teams play.

by **Rafa D** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:44 am

Personally I don't give two fu.cks about England anymore. Sure as a kid I loved England, but year after year they lost that sparkle with all the failed tournaments and the ever inflating Ego's.

We're not English, we're scouse.

On the subject of Sammy Lee's promotion to manager at Bolton I have mixed reactions. Firstly I am made up for Sammy who has worked hard and climbed the ladder working with Liverpool, Bolton and England. But Bolton are one of my least favourite teams in the league. So I don't want him to do well.

by **LFC #1** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:08 pm

Rafa-Dodd wrote:On the subject of Sammy Lee's promotion to manager at Bolton I have mixed reactions. Firstly I am made up for Sammy who has worked hard and climbed the ladder working with Liverpool, Bolton and England. But Bolton are one of my least favourite teams in the league. So I don't want him to do well.

Fair enough, Bolton could well follow the path of Southampton. S'oton were a top 8 side under Strachan and within a year they were relegated. They lost stability and cohesion.

The only difference between the two is Bolton has decided to promote the assistant manager to the top job rather than bring in an outsider. This is a smart choice IMO as Boton are a smallish club with little money so the manager already knowing the players well and probably empolying similar tactics, which although aren't very pleasing on the eye, are mighty effective will be beneficial to Bolton IMO. For smaller clubs who play with a very specific tactical setup, stability is key.

If Bolton had hired an all out attacking manager like Keegan for example, he'd need a lot of time to implement new tactics and personnel, and for a club like Bolton this would cause risk of relegation IMO with so much change.

The point about him leaving with two games left to give the new manager a full summer to implement changes etc is also a good one.

As for Allardyce, like him or not he has done an excellent job at Bolton. In fact he's been of the best managers in the league over the last few seasons IMO.

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