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by **teamleader1** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:21 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:And the vast majority in the ground every week are still supporting him and backing him

Not from where I sit
Most supporters are sick of paying good money to watch shyte game after game.
The mans not up to the job and we are desperate for a change.

I will tell all the Lads to stop singing his name when they go away with The Red Men ........ must be annoying for you ffs

Not really

The complete shyte served up as the norm annoys me.
so does the fact that we have a manager who has proved beyond doubt he hasnte got a fkn clue how to handle the situation
Now if you think hes doing a great job and the football we play is good enough then Im happy for you.
Will you still be declaring your undying love when the crowd from over the park finish above us come May?

by **Waldo** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:50 pm

I had the pleasure of meeting Kenny a few weeks ago @ a business lunch.

I asked him what was going on with the club behind the scenes, with Rafa etc. As you would expect he gave very little away but I was not sure that was whether he was keeping that from me or he genuinely didn't have a clue. By the end of the afternoon I was swaying towards the latter.

I asked him flipantly if he would take the job if Rafa were to go and he said he would (and I quote) "babysit for a period of time until a suitable replacement was found"

by **Igor Zidane** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:53 pm

Don't think i'd like him to be our manager again ,for purley selfish reason's . Would hate to see him get the cack rafa has by the fans and media. History will be re written by the whoppers and journo's if he gets it wrong .

by **redbeergoggles** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:11 am

teamleader1 wrote:Will you still be declaring your undying love when the crowd from over the park finish above us come May?

Stop it

Now your just being silly :laugh:

by **teamleader1** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:56 am

redbeergoggles wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:Will you still be declaring your undying love when the crowd from over the park finish above us come May?

Stop it
Now your just being silly

Wish I was m8

But a glance at the table tells another story :down:

Unlike Rafa, Moyes has worked it out and got them out of their early season slump and they have as much chance as us of finishing 4th
In fact on form who would bet against it?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:32 pm

teamleader1 wrote:
redbeergoggles wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:Will you still be declaring your undying love when the crowd from over the park finish above us come May?

Stop it
Now your just being silly

Wish I was m8

But a glance at the table tells another story

Unlike Rafa, Moyes has worked it out and got them out of their early season slump and they have as much chance as us of finishing 4th
In fact on form who would bet against it?

I accept Moyes has got the bitters playing as a complete unit and they do look solid in defence ,but I don't expect them to finish above the Reds ,I think the boys will finish strongly and secure fourth simply because there is too much riding on it fella ,I don't even see Spurs or City as our main threat I reckon Villa will be the ones pushing us Spurs have got some tough games to get through soon and City for me don't look like a team ,yes they are full of talented individuals but no spirit .

I just cant see the Bitters jumping into that equation,even though its apparent their form is currently up their with the top teams ,no I am not even going to think about that possible scenario ,the Reds will pull this out of the bag and qualify for the Champions League

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:43 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:Don't think i'd like him to be our manager again ,for purley selfish reason's . Would hate to see him get the cack rafa has by the fans and media. History will be re written by the whoppers and journo's if he gets it wrong .

Precisely mate ,there is little respect afforded towards Liverpool players and managers as it stands ,without a player and manager from our illustrious past who personifies the term Hero worship being subject to the vitriolic and defamatory personal insults that Rafa has been subject to this season

by **Rockthekop** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:15 pm

teamleader1 wrote:
redbeergoggles wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:Will you still be declaring your undying love when the crowd from over the park finish above us come May?

Stop it
Now your just being silly

Wish I was m8

But a glance at the table tells another story

Unlike Rafa, Moyes has worked it out and got them out of their early season slump and they have as much chance as us of finishing 4th
In fact on form who would bet against it?

You're not being silly at all, I can't understand why people are still backing Rafa. How can any Liverpool fan be happy watching the same negative, one dimensional, mind numbing football every week and then blame the owners, it's laughable.

The owners do need to go but who picks the team, who chooses to play negative football, who picks Lucas and Kuyt to play even when they are dire, who spent 20m on an injured midfielder and then bench him more often than not when he's fit, who can't motivate his players etc.

There's a long list of reasons why we need to replace him but some people just can't or refuse to accept it. Those are the same people that backed Houllier a season after he should have gone.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:32 pm

Rockthekop wrote:There's a long list of reasons why we need to replace him but some people just can't or refuse to accept it. Those are the same people that backed Houllier a season after he should have gone.

Houllier ffs he had funds and the full backing of David Iscariot (sorry Moores )to fall back on ,not even remotely reminiscent of them black days ,and in case your wondering I instinctively knew when Houlliers time was up ,it was equally apparent when he could take us no further ,I have no such feelings were Rafa is concerned but I do however believe the owners to be the orchestrator's of all our problems ... YES ALL

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:40 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Rockthekop wrote:There's a long list of reasons why we need to replace him but some people just can't or refuse to accept it. Those are the same people that backed Houllier a season after he should have gone.

Houllier ffs he had funds and the full backing of David Iscariot (sorry Moores )to fall back on ,not even remotely reminiscent of them black days ,and in case your wondering I instinctively knew when Houlliers time was up ,it was equally apparent when he could take us no further ,I have no such feelings were Rafa is concerned but I do however believe the owners to be the orchestrator's of all our problems ... YES ALL

Yeah I think there is a picture somewhere of Hicks throwing the beach ball on the pitch at Sunderland.

Hicks and Gillett are responsible for our problems OFF THE PITCH, the manager and players are responsible for the problems ON the pitch. Yes we could have done with more money...... but then again SO COULD EVERY OTHER FECKING CLUB IN THE WORLD (apart from maybe Citeh who appear to have everyone else's share)

by **Rockthekop** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:01 pm

There is no denying that the owners are part of the clubs current predictament off the field but to actually suggest they are responsible for ALL our problems is completely absurd

...who picks the team, who chooses to play negative football, who picks Lucas and Kuyt to play even when they are dire, who spent 20m on an injured midfielder and then bench him more often than not when he's fit, who can't motivate his players etc....

Seems to me that the blind faith of many of the supporters is more damaging to the club right now for backing a manager who clearly isn't up to the job than the owners.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:27 pm

s@int wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Rockthekop wrote:There's a long list of reasons why we need to replace him but some people just can't or refuse to accept it. Those are the same people that backed Houllier a season after he should have gone.

Houllier ffs he had funds and the full backing of David Iscariot (sorry Moores )to fall back on ,not even remotely reminiscent of them black days ,and in case your wondering I instinctively knew when Houlliers time was up ,it was equally apparent when he could take us no further ,I have no such feelings were Rafa is concerned but I do however believe the owners to be the orchestrator's of all our problems ... YES ALL

Yeah I think there is a picture somewhere of Hicks throwing the beach ball on the pitch at Sunderland.

Hicks and Gillett are responsible for our problems OFF THE PITCH, the manager and players are responsible for the problems ON the pitch. Yes we could have done with more money...... but then again SO COULD EVERY OTHER FECKING CLUB IN THE WORLD (apart from maybe Citeh who appear to have everyone else's share)

No Saint we all know fully well it was Lady Luck who threw that beach ball ,and she has continued to throw spanners in our general direction all season ,Hicks that b@stard couldn't throw a competent insult let alone a ball ...

Listen we disagree about where the problem lies ,it doesn't matter how many capitals suddenly appear in your post mate ,the point your making I understand I just cant see how its a relevant issue while the owners are still at the club ,I too wish more than anything that I could shield myself from the inner turmoil at the club by providing an argument that success on the field would make me forget about how the club is being sucked dry by these Harpies ,but it wont sadly and I fail to grasp how any manager expected to provide a challenge for the title could do so given the sparse amount of funds available to promote his goal ,because we are talking Titles here aren't we

Its not that I don't understand Saint ,nor is it an attempt on my part to deliberately provoke ,its an irrefutable fact Liverpool's slide from grace is far from coming to an end unless we rid ourselves of this blight on our club ,I long for the days when all I and other like-minded fans had to worry about was securing your ticket to get to yet another Cup Final ,but them days are now so far away and they are drifting further ,and regardless of what anyone has to say on the matter concerning a change of manager , I simply adhere to the premise that this is for cosmetic purposes only it can have no real fix on the grand scale of things

by **Penguins** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:35 pm

And the truth is somewhere in between.....

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:46 pm

Rockthekop wrote:There is no denying that the owners are part of the clubs current predictament off the field but to actually suggest they are responsible for ALL our problems is completely absurd

...who picks the team, who chooses to play negative football, who picks Lucas and Kuyt to play even when they are dire, who spent 20m on an injured midfielder and then bench him more often than not when he's fit, who can't motivate his players etc....

Seems to me that the blind faith of many of the supporters is more damaging to the club right now for backing a manager who clearly isn't up to the job than the owners.

Next time you feel the overwhelming need to educate us with your poignant thoughts

may I suggest you desist and carry on your finger painting :laugh:

by **teamleader1** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:50 pm

Getting shut of the person responsible for picking the team and tactics is not cosmetic!
All thats happend is that Rafas chickens have all come home to roost
His poor squad buys and bad judgement in the sales department, his negative tactics and lack of man management skills have all come to a head.
basicaly hes been found out when things went wrong and dosnte have a clue how to put them right.

We would all be laughing our fkn heads off if Fergie carried on like Rafa
But to be honest he wouldnt get the chance to
So why is Rafa?

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