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by **Sabre** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:07 am

JoeTerp wrote:
s@int wrote:It is even speculated that if all goes to plan, Alonso will be able to feature for Madrid in their North American tour, starting with a clash against Toronto FC on August 7 followed by a meeting with DC United two days later.

got my tickets about a month ago. Will either be sporting a F.cuk off Madrid banner or a thanks for the memories type of banner. Maybe Sabre could help me out with a Basque phrase that would get his attention.

Stick to the Madrid fúck off banner, I'll help you in basque if you wish.

That's the most footie thing you can do if you want to be a continental style fan. Yes, no welcomes to Alonso, leave that for the american girlies.

AS says this morning the negotiations are being as hard as possible and that Purslow, in btw a perfect Spanish (all the negotiations are in Spanish), keeps saying that he won't yield a single pound.

We have known today aswell that Ibañez the agent wants a 5M commission for the transfer. Purslow told Madrid "Well then, let him earn the half of it and put that money in the transfer", but "that's not possible" said Madrid.

Alonso was phoned and he just answered "I'm off to Norway, they will tell me something at some point", meaning, he wants the situation sorted in one way or another. He was surprised Ibañez wanted so much money for the move (are you surprised he's a cúnt, Xabi?).

In any case we won't have to wait long, if in the next few hours there's no agreement, the negotiations will be broken.
The alternative for Alonso, Defour, is asked 20M even if he doesn't play for a top club nor has won anything. So you see, Real Madrid should consider a bargain the 30M, they're gona be ripped off wherever they go.

by **kazza** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:48 am

Sabre wrote:The alternative for Alonso, Defour, is asked 20M even if he doesn't play for a top club nor has won anything. So you see, Real Madrid should consider a bargain the 30M, they're gona be ripped off wherever they go.

I think the Italian's injury record is worrying, I think Defour seems much more a Raffa type player and talk of the Italian is a smoke screen. He seems talented but if you are injury prone you are injury prone, and we do not need another "sick-note"

by **Sabre** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:00 am

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a smoke screen, Rafa tends to hold his cards to his chest Kazzaa.

BTW Marca is slightly more pessimistic about the Alonso deal this morning. They say they think Rafa and Purslow are taking the píss of Real Madrid

as everything they have yielded from the initial 40M € are 2M €

Good one.

by **kazza** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:08 am

Sabre wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it was a smoke screen, Rafa tends to hold his cards to his chest Kazzaa.

BTW Marca is slightly more pessimistic about the Alonso deal this morning. They say they think Rafa and Purslow are taking the píss of Real Madrid as everything they have yielded from the initial 40M € are 2M € Good one.

Shame on Liverpool and shame on Purslow. When Real come in to give you a good shafting you are supposed to say "please sir, can I have another"

by **Julio-0** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:09 am

Penguins wrote:Which Italian has been a success in the PL?

Only Zola, Vialli,and maybe Paolo Di Canio.

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:10 am

(Part of Saints post) Liverpool are reportedly eager to get their hands on as much and as early as possible to settle part of their refinancing debt as well as to purchase a replacement for Xabi.

See im not stupid, i feckin knew it i knew theyd want something

by **tubby** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:20 am

Rafa should get at least 60% of whatever he gets in I reckon. It's not out of this world to expect some money to go to the club. Im sure Utd were the same with Ronaldo and Arsenal with Adebayor and Toure.

That Defour looks useful. Not as injury prone as Aquilani either.

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:27 am

Sabre wrote:AS says this morning the negotiations are being as hard as possible and that Purslow, in btw a perfect Spanish (all the negotiations are in Spanish), keeps saying that he won't yield a single pound.

We have known today aswell that Ibañez the agent wants a 5M commission for the transfer. Purslow told Madrid "Well then, let him earn the half of it and put that money in the transfer", but "that's not possible" said Madrid.

Alonso was phoned and he just answered "I'm off to Norway, they will tell me something at some point", meaning, he wants the situation sorted in one way or another. He was surprised Ibañez wanted so much money for the move (are you surprised he's a cúnt, Xabi?).

In any case we won't have to wait long, if in the next few hours there's no agreement, the negotiations will be broken.
The alternative for Alonso, Defour, is asked 20M even if he doesn't play for a top club nor has won anything. So you see, Real Madrid should consider a bargain the 30M, they're gona be ripped off wherever they go.

So it looks like my info i got was right then Sabes , Hes not a Madrid player and the thing about Defour,

by **Redman in wales** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:30 am

Sneijder agent quells Inter talk

Wesley Sneijder's agent has rejected claims that the Real Madrid midfielder is set to sign for Inter Milan.

Reports have suggested an agreement has been reached between the two clubs over a summer switch.

Sneijder's future is uncertain following the high-profile arrivals at Real during the current transfer window.

But Sneijder's agent, Soren Lerby, has dismissed claims that the Holland international is poised to join Inter.

"We have an understanding with Real Madrid that Wesley can't leave the club. And nothing has changed there," Lerby told La Gazzetta dello Sport.

sly sports

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c'mon rafa... if xabi does go... get £14m + Sneijder and I'd be happy. then all we'd neede is a back up defender and back up striker.....

by **Scottbot** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:01 am

Penguins wrote:Which Italian has been a success in the PL?

I can't think of any high profile (international level) Italian midfielders who have tried there hand in the Premiership. The only successful player i can think of is Iranio at Derby County in the mid to late nineties, they brought him over at the same time as Carboni.

by **bunglemark2** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:04 am

Scottbot wrote:
Penguins wrote:Which Italian has been a success in the PL?

I can't think of any high profile (international level) Italian midfielders who have tried there hand in the Premiership. The only successful player i can think of is Iranio at Derby County in the mid to late nineties, they brought him over at the same time as Carboni.

Iranio ?

Didn't he come over at the same time as Uuuvvaavvuuuu ?

(Sorry - couldn't resist it !! :rasp

)

by **Scottbot** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:05 am

bigmick wrote:On Aquilani, I had a quick look at him on Youtube and was considering beating my own record for "I know it's early..." thread bys tarting one before we'd actually signed him. I decided against it, but my view based on three minutes of action and the obligatory house track, was this.

He's right footed predominantly, and he has a good shot but not a Gerrard "hot shot Hamish" shot, more of a Beckhamesque whipped variety. He does though hit it with his left as well, although he very much relies on hitting it true in this case by keeping his technique sound. In build he is probably similar in stature to Masherano, and he did play one kind of flicked backheel pass on the clip I saw.

A couple of notes of caution though. Firstly, he looks a bit of a ponce to me No seriously, he does. Secondly, he's Italian and I can't remember the last one who did any good over in England, since Zola. There's been some decent ones too, the centre half who bombed out at Everton before playing for Inter was a good player, and there's been a couple of strikers with big reputations that have done feck all.

My early call-avoid.

I think we probably watched the same clip and I share a similar assessment from the 8 minutes I watched. But there's no getting away from the fact that the epl is no place for an injury prone Italian centre-mid to make his comeback from knee surgery. I'd quite like to see a more physical player with a bit of height and power on him, someone in the Ballack mould. We've become such a short side.

by **Scottbot** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:07 am

bunglemark2 wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
Penguins wrote:Which Italian has been a success in the PL?

I can't think of any high profile (international level) Italian midfielders who have tried there hand in the Premiership. The only successful player i can think of is Iranio at Derby County in the mid to late nineties, they brought him over at the same time as Carboni.

Iranio ?

Didn't he come over at the same time as Uuuvvaavvuuuu ?

(Sorry - couldn't resist it !! )

He's was a good player, had an eye for goal,
a real shooting star...boom boom...

by **woof woof !** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:28 am

Julio-0 wrote:
Penguins wrote:Which Italian has been a success in the PL?

Only Zola, Vialli,and maybe Paolo Di Canio.

Ravanelli had a good season at Middlesboro' in the mid '90s, and from 1996 onward Roberto di Matteo had 5 or 6 (?) good seasons at Chelsea.

by **red37** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:29 am

Not a midfielder like....but Ravenelli did OK here.

I'm not filled with optimism for Aquilani at all - part of me is hoping its a load of bollox. Another part says there's 'No smoke without fire'

Its not so much the quality of the player (he has quite a bit of it) its the fact that we aren't going to even see him competitively for around a month. It goes without saying, that it is VITAL we get off to a great start. By the time Aquilani IS fit....its going to take god knows how long for him to learn his lines and get up to speed with his team. Not to mention the additional 'urgency' which must be experienced before being mastered, of the frenetic pace and dynamics of the typical Premier League campaign. Its looking like at least after chrimbo before the lads feet touch the ground and he realises what it is exactly he's in for......then of course he's going to freeze to death

In all honesty - it could well take up almost a full season before we get to see the lad in his true flying colours. IF he is up to it at all.....Of course, i might be being a touch harsh on the lad. (if he is infact coming here anyway) - But no mistake about it, he is going to be in for one hell of a ride once he's ready to be thrown in (whenever that would be).

For me i'd have a look at these:

Viera
Distin
Tuncay

There would be a few quid left over for T&T's little 'pot' and we would have added depth, experience, quality AND cover...in equal measure. 4 factors that are going to be critical in determining our fortunes given the platform the club is ready to build on from last term. Anything less...is going to be a setback.

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