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Dazzer wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

Dazzer wrote:With Global Capitalism Exposed as a Sham, All the Global Elite Have Left Is Pure Force

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The rage of the disposed is fracturing the country, dividing it into camps that are unmoored from the political mainstream. ...

yada yada yada

...l unions that embrace broad causes, we have a chance of effecting change. If this does not happen it will be a right-wing disaster."

Thought I post this up just to show you what capitalism is doing to the world just as backup to comments I made earlyer in thread.I It also has some value in this topic due to the right wing trend atm around the world not just in uk and france.Its good read and might surprise some of you.

What a load of tripe!

Capitalism has paid the every growing salaries in this world, has allowed growth in wealth. There is understandably a unbalanced distribution of wealth but since when do you see the socialist and communist regiemes distribute their wealth equally?

When I think of countries like China, Cuba, North Korea, etc - I makes me glad that I live in a democratic society based on capitalism. It allows me the freedom to earn what I want, become what I want.

Capitalism is a system where the economy is driven and traded privately, by opposing capitalism you are advocating government control!! Have you seen our government recently?

Daft lad really daft don't speak about this you clearly have no idea.Its ruining world if you knew how the central banking system worked you know capitalism has been doomed since day one.Think of a pyramid scheme on a world stage only so long untill there is too much debt and the system implodeds on its self.But no its fine you just keep dreaming that every thing is going to be ok forever like a good little puppet.

Are you saying that Communism is the answer becuase if you are we are about to fall out.
I just moved back from Norway which is about as Socialist as you can have, all propped up by the oil of course.
It's a country where it doesn't really matter wether you work or are unemployed becuase you still get lots of money to go on holidays etc.
The consequence is the biggest load of workshy I have ever witnessed in my life, a country that will be completely fecked when the oil runs out, a country that is already now starting to outsource all its work abroad, as it is not econmically viable to hire Norwegians who are sick half the time but whom you can't fire. In norway you can be away from work 8 days at a time without a doctors note, 8 fecking days!! and they do.

The problem with Socialism and Communism is that it doesn't take into account peoples inherent greed, Capitalism is designed to take advantage of it but still provide a safety net via the Welfare state, it may not be a perfect system but untill money becomes irrelevant at some point in the future it is the best system we have.   

Benny The Noon wrote:What exactly would you like us to do about Zimbabwe ? What about all the other countries in the world just sitting and watching ?

And Dazzer your a brave little puppy going round insulting and having a pop at anyone who dares disagree with you .

I would like us to send in the armed forces and overturn Mugabe, or just send in a hit squad and kill the evil .

When Britian left Zimbabwe it made a promise to protect it, a promise it has not kept.

heimdall wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

Dazzer wrote:With Global Capitalism Exposed as a Sham, All the Global Elite Have Left Is Pure Force

Link

The rage of the disposed is fracturing the country, dividing it into camps that are unmoored from the political mainstream. ...

yada yada yada

...l unions that embrace broad causes, we have a chance of effecting change. If this does not happen it will be a right-wing disaster."

Thought I post this up just to show you what capitalism is doing to the world just as backup to comments I made earlyer in thread.I It also has some value in this topic due to the right wing trend atm around the world not just in uk and france.Its good read and might surprise some of you.

What a load of tripe!

Capitalism has paid the every growing salaries in this world, has allowed growth in wealth. There is understandably a unbalanced distribution of wealth but since when do you see the socialist and communist regiemes distribute their wealth equally?

When I think of countries like China, Cuba, North Korea, etc - I makes me glad that I live in a democratic society based on capitalism. It allows me the freedom to earn what I want, become what I want.

Capitalism is a system where the economy is driven and traded privately, by opposing capitalism you are advocating government control!! Have you seen our government recently?

Daft lad really daft don't speak about this you clearly have no idea.Its ruining world if you knew how the central banking system worked you know capitalism has been doomed since day one.Think of a pyramid scheme on a world stage only so long untill there is too much debt and the system implodeds on its self.But no its fine you just keep dreaming that every thing is going to be ok forever like a good little puppet.

Are you saying that Communism is the answer becuase if you are we are about to fall out.
I just moved back from Norway which is about as Socialist as you can have, all propped up by the oil of course.
It's a country where it doesn't really matter wether you work or are unemployed becuase you still get lots of money to go on holidays etc.
The consequence is the biggest load of workshy I have ever witnessed in my life, a country that will be completely fecked when the oil runs out, a country that is already now starting to outsource all its work abroad, as it is not econmically viable to hire Norwegians who are sick half the time but whom you can't fire. In norway you can be away from work 8 days at a time without a doctors note, 8 fecking days!! and they do.

The problem with Socialism and Communism is that it doesn't take into account peoples inherent greed, Capitalism is designed to take advantage of it but still provide a safety net via the Welfare state, it may not be a perfect system but untill money becomes irrelevant at some point in the future it is the best system we have.   

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What exactly would you like us to do about Zimbabwe ? What about all the other countries in the world just sitting and watching ?

And Dazzer your a brave little puppy going round insulting and having a pop at anyone who dares disagree with you .

I would like us to send in the armed forces and overturn Mugabe, or just send in a hit squad and kill the evil .

When Britian left Zimbabwe it made a promise to protect it, a promise it has not kept.

Benny The Noon wrote:What exactly would you like us to do about Zimbabwe ? What about all the other countries in the world just sitting and watching ?

And Dazzer your a brave little puppy going round insulting and having a pop at anyone who dares disagree with you .

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What exactly would you like us to do about Zimbabwe ? What about all the other countries in the world just sitting and watching ?

And Dazzer your a brave little puppy going round insulting and having a pop at anyone who dares disagree with you .

I would like us to send in the armed forces and overturn Mugabe, or just send in a hit squad and kill the evil .

When Britian left Zimbabwe it made a promise to protect it, a promise it has not kept.

Where would you like these Armed Forces to come from seeing as they are already stretched to the max having to deal with other things
Yes its all well and good to say "Lets send in the boys" without thinking .

How about you get your own countries guys in ?

Or maybe realise you cant just go strolling into any country just because you dont like the way they work .

Benny The Noon wrote:90% fact ?!?! so it can be argued against becuase its not 100% fact .

Dazzer wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:90% fact ?!?! so it can be argued against becuase its not 100% fact .

No no you don't understand most of that report is truth IE based on things that are really happening and he puts a few points IE ideas of his own.

Benny The Noon wrote:You make it all sound so easy but im pretty sure its far far more complicated than you coould ever imagine and yes i reckon your last bit is right but should change it to all counts .

tee hee hee how witty you are 

Anyway you clearly think it's fine for a country to forget it's obligations which speaks volumes about your character, the pathetic little jibes don't add to much to my mental image either.

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:90% fact ?!?! so it can be argued against becuase its not 100% fact .

No no you don't understand most of that report is truth IE based on things that are really happening and he puts a few points IE ideas of his own.

Every single post you have made since I responded has made yourself look more like a pleb.

My favourite quote - "Its not something to be argued that report is 90% fact 10% opinion" <<< Brilliant!

The report you quoted was a from a website call Alternet, so popular I've never heard of them. A quick google search and it seems they are not only completely NPOV ('non point of view' for you my friend) - they are liberal activists. Hardly a credible source! What worries me is there are 3 million of you dimwits reading it and falling for their sewage.

I know the banking system as well as most people who read Politics and Economics, that clearly excludes you. And most if not all would say the problem is not with Capiltalism but with regulation. Our current mess in the reccession was caused by the combination of corporate greed and lack of regulation.

Fortunately, for us who aren't led blindly by liberalist propoganda, those who are anti-capitalist are a minority!

fair point but are you royalty or something? This word pleb which is originally a roman word to describe the working classes really confuses me, does it mean something different in Liverpool or are you calling Dazzer working class?

Anyway good points about Capitalism, kind of echoes what I said, not that anybody ever properly reads my posts any more.