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by **Ciggy** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:38 am

I really love wild life and 26 million sharks are killed each year for shark fin feckin soup, the fins have no taste actually the taste comes from chicken stock its a well known fact.

Its disgusting and disgraceful that the top of the food chain in the sea is being wiped out because of a bowl of soup. :no

Some sharks can only reproduce at the age of 4, but baby sharks are being wiped out at as young as 6 months old because finning brings in 1000$ a kilo so they dont care how old, how big, pregnant or male they just catch the sharks in nets cut their fins off and throw them back into the ocean to die. For a bowl of soup that tastes like chicken :no

Its got to stop the shark is the most beautiful creature on earth its amazing from the great white to the timid whale shark. Mankind makes me so angry at times these are not man eating machines they are needed to clean out the oceans if you get bit by a shark tough t!tty they have a right to be in the ocean you dont.

Im so gutted about the dwindling shark population worldwide its really bad just for a bowl of soup and other chinese herb remedies that dont work.

A shark is one of the most powerfull wonderfull creatures on earth they are trully wonderfull and I love them.

SAVE THE SHARKS, FUCK THE SOUP OFF !!!!

by **aCe'** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:54 am

survival of the fittest and all that... if theyr fit enough to survive in this world they will, if not then tough titty... just how i see things...
same with every other animal out there thats endangered today...

Its alot harder saving animals that live in open waters... if the shark was a bird or a buffalo it would have been much easier saving it... simple property right assignments done in the right way would do the trick... Still doable in open waters but the costs associated with control, regulation and punishment are much higher than what saving the shark is worth...

Still, many would tell you that simply knowing of the existence of an animal that you'll probably never ever see unless you go to a fancy aquarium is worth more than the jobs and utility and human lives that would benefit from such a thing..

by **Ciggy** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:11 am

aCe' wrote:
survival of the fittest and all that... if theyr fit enough to survive in this world they will, if not then tough titty... just how i see things...
same with every other animal out there thats endangered today...

Its alot harder saving animals that live in open waters... if the shark was a bird or a buffalo it would have been much easier saving it... simple property right assignments done in the right way would do the trick... Still doable in open waters but the costs associated with control, regulation and punishment are much higher than what saving the shark is worth...

Still, many would tell you that simply knowing of the existence of an animal that you'll probably never ever see unless you go to a fancy aquarium is worth more than the jobs and utility and human lives that would benefit from such a thing..

How can they survive when shark nets are put out everyday in certain places in the world? In them nets dolphins, turtles, whales and other marine mammals are killed just because a shark is worth more dead than alive.

Ive seen sharks in the sea and in aquariums seen a whale shark in the aquarium in Dubai it was one of the most amazing things Ive ever seen in my life, but its not right its not fair whale sharks live on crill from coral reefs in an aquarium there is no coral.

by **aCe'** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:24 am

yea i see where your coming from.. this same discussion extends beyond just sharks to all sorts of natural resources... the whole sustainability talk about how we need to preserve for future generations and all that... my point is... in economic terms, if having a shark swimming around an ocean or aquarium was worth more than the satisfaction(utility) people get from the soup then people wouldnt be fishing for them in the first place... you spoke about you knowing about oil i think in a different thread .. its pretty much the same thing... everyone goes on about needing to save oil and keep more reserves etc etc... well if people knew that it would be worth more in the future than it does now then everyone would save it and not be selling it now... point is, unfortunately, sharks are worth more in a bowl of soup than they are in an ocean or aquarium... people might not like that, but then again thats just how it is...
They cant survive because they're of more use (apparently) to humans dead than they are alive..

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:37 am

I'd a great facination of sharks when I was a kid. Along with dinosaurs, I'd study and sit and draw them. Dunno what it was about them. Just seems like a sin to kill an animal for such a petty thing, but then again us human beings are petty creatures, most of the time.

Without going to the oracle known as Google, I do believe it's the Chinese that are mostly the culprits regarding fin harvesting, whereas the Japanese are guilty of the whale and dolphin slaughter. Like most other things that are out of control these days, it's a sad state of affairs that will eventually come back to bite us in the bollox in the future if a strict ban doesn't come into effect really soon. It's not going to kill the c*nts to not have fin soup on the menu for about 10 years, is it?

The thing that these ignorant w"nkers don't realize that if sharks die off, then it would be catasrophic for us in more ways than one, with the knock-on effects on the eco system being pretty severe. And just because an animal is endangered by our own greedy hands, it doesn't mean to say that the best place for it is in a f*cking zoo.

by **babu** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:14 am

You'll all probably hate me. But Shark Fin soup is one of my all time favourite soups. The taste and texture is superb.

To this day I still crave it. The subsitute is Crab Meat soup, cooked exactly the same way and almost as good.

I haven't had Shark Fin soup in 3 or 4 years, since it was extremely obvious that I was contributing to the decimination of sharks.

But I got to say, even then it was a reluctant decision.

As soon as they work out how to grow a shark's fin on a petri dish, I be back in.

by **Number 9** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:50 am

Its not the fact that they make shark fin soup that annoys me its how they kill the sharks!
They pull them out of the water,hack there fins off and throw them back in to die in agony!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep7B1esW-M
:no

98% of the shark is wasted!

by **Ciggy** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:23 am

Number 9 wrote:Its not the fact that they make shark fin soup that annoys me its how they kill the sharks!
They pull them out of the water,hack there fins off and throw them back in to die in agony!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zep7B1esW-M

98% of the shark is wasted!

Terrible what they do to the sharks cut the fins then fling them back in, other sharks come to eat the remains then they are caught and the same thing happens over and over again.

Also in Costa Rica they use puppies with hooks through their noses to catch sharks. :no

b@stards.

by **Big Niall** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:55 am

I've nothing against hunting but isn't it common sense that you don't kill the young ones of a specie because you need them to breed to continue hunting?

by **tubby** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:56 am

It is truely barbaric but ultimatley if there is a market for them then this will continue. Seal clubbing, whale hunting, the list goes on.... Id love to follow one of these fishing boats out to sea and just sink their ship, watch them sink and fecking die the :censored:

.

Anyway I am a firm believer in karma. These people will get what's coming to them one day.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:15 pm

Big Niall wrote:I've nothing against hunting but isn't it common sense that you don't kill the young ones of a specie because you need them to breed to continue hunting?

Nail, you need ADULT ones to make more young ones. :no

Also, a shark pups are highly vulnerable due to the carniverous nature of adult sharks, which makes their dwindling numbers even more concerning due to how difficult it is for them to survive to adult stages.

by **woof woof !** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:57 pm

I hope mother nature fights back

Well looks like the seals have had enough of those humans with clubs

by **Sabre** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:45 pm

aCe' wrote:
survival of the fittest and all that... if theyr fit enough to survive in this world they will, if not then tough titty... just how i see things...
same with every other animal out there thats endangered today...

Its alot harder saving animals that live in open waters... if the shark was a bird or a buffalo it would have been much easier saving it... simple property right assignments done in the right way would do the trick... Still doable in open waters but the costs associated with control, regulation and punishment are much higher than what saving the shark is worth...

Still, many would tell you that simply knowing of the existence of an animal that you'll probably never ever see unless you go to a fancy aquarium is worth more than the jobs and utility and human lives that would benefit from such a thing..

I can certainly understand someone who likes shark soap but I can't understand this kind of attitude.

The fact is that even if "you don't see" sharks you'd probably notice their absence from the sea and the effects of it would harm economy.

Nobody should be against fishing sharks, but if their numbers go down in an alarming way you have to control that.

by **SupitsJonF** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:55 pm

by **mistyred** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:20 pm

SupitsJonF wrote:

Ha ha, Punch him Sabre

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