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by **A.B.** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:59 pm

who the hell is diarra wrote:If we overtake the mancs this season it will be a massive achievement. To dismiss the mancs is silly I only wish they would go away so easily If you think that they will A.B. i'm afraid your'e dreaming

I wasn't dismissing Mancs players, I was refering to their idiotic fans to prove a point which is that all players can be critisized. They think that their players are the gods of football and they disrespect the rest of the players in the Premiership. That was the point of this thread, it was towards the Man Utd. fans.

I should had clarified that in the first place otherwise this thread wouldn't be 9 pages long.

by **A.B.** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:02 pm

stu_the_red wrote:
Sometimes I question myself if you have the ability to understand things? Find the post where I said that you can win games 0-0.

Solid defence prevents from your opponents offence to score, giving the midfield and the offence time to work together and score while your opponent can not do anything to score because of your defence.

You win games with both the defence and the offence, it can't be just one. It has to be balanced out.

You said defence was most important.

It isn't.

No I did not, the old saying that I posted made it look like that I was a fan of defence, I was simply stating that defence is just as important as offence. You didn't understand it and then tried to insult me [it isn't hard to insult someone over a message board, try it in real life if you have the balls to do so] because you did not agree with what I said.

by **who the hell is diarra** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:06 pm

A.B. wrote:I should had clarified that in the first place otherwise this thread wouldn't be 9 pages long.

LOOOL i couldn't be bothered to read all of them. :kungfu:

by **JBG** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:11 pm

Its pointless arguing A.B. as it'll get you nowhere.

by **taff** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:20 pm

Scarper its the scuffers

blah blah meet me in real life zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Loads of manc fans are critical of their team at the moment but they do have a lot of dicks supporting them as well but they are the team to beat perhaps Arsenal are taking that mantle over at this moment in time

The odd thing is I reckon the both of you would probably get on

:cool:

by **A.B.** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:22 pm

I don't see Man Utd challenging Arsenal this year, even Shrek himself said that it will take 2-3 years to win the Premiership.

My predictions for this year:
1.Arsenal
2.Chelsea
3.Liverpool
4.Middlesbrough/Manchester United

I am very optimistic about LFC this year but I have to be realistic as well.

by **supersub** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:33 pm

stu_the_red wrote:Also, my point is... how can defence be more important to winning a game than attack when you have to score to win? defence is massively important, it has its own benifits and makes attacking far easier. But the fact is as i said, you can't win 0-0. You can win 10-9. Being able to score goals is more important than keeping clean sheets, its 51% about being able to score 49% about being able to keep a clean sheet.

I believe defending and attacking is of equal importance.
just as you can't win games if you don't score,you can't lose games if you don't concede.
you can still lose games even if your 50% attack score 9 goals,because the 49% defence went and conceded 10.So the arguement is futile.
Both defence and attack are of equal importance.
The team that scores the most wins.
The team that concedes the least wins.
Both scenarios gives us a winner.

I like to see us score goals,not clear the goal line.
If every game could be won with free flowing all out attack,then boy would that be top entertainment.Footy isn't like that;so we have to have a team of 11 players,each one as important as the next when doing their job for the team,to obtain the required win.Attacking and defending is a team effort without either you always be a loser.

But then again in the words of ...was it Nick Berry?..."Every Loser Wins".....!

by **adayinthelife** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:15 am

It all depends on the manager and his ideas.

Do you think Wenger has his players working on defence 50% of the time

I doubt it very much as arsenal without the ball could be alot better which IMO is why they have yet to conquer europe as teams in the prem lge give them the ball back more often.

When they have the ball their pace,passing,touch and runs off the ball are a joy to watch and has no doubt been the result of working on attacking alot more than 50% of the time.

IMO Wenger is the best manager in the world and he works alot more on attacking,is on a record unbeaten run so who can argue with him and his ideas on how the game should be played

Attack is the best form of defence as if you have the ball the other team cannot score. :cool:

by **A.B.** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:46 am

adayinthelife wrote:It all depends on the manager and his ideas.

Do you think Wenger has his players working on defence 50% of the time

I doubt it very much as arsenal without the ball could be alot better which IMO is why they have yet to conquer europe as teams in the prem lge give them the ball back more often.

When they have the ball their pace,passing,touch and runs off the ball are a joy to watch and has no doubt been the result of working on attacking alot more than 50% of the time.

IMO Wenger is the best manager in the world and he works alot more on attacking,is on a record unbeaten run so who can argue with him and his ideas on how the game should be played

Attack is the best form of defence as if you have the ball the other team cannot score.

My point exactly.

by **anfieldadorer** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:49 am

A.B. wrote:My point exactly.

Good post, AB!

by **anfieldadorer** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:10 am

Not very relevant, but who cares:

The Liverpool squad in full registered for the Champions League this season is:

Goalkeepers

1 Jerzy Dudek
22 Chris Kirkland
40 Paul Harrison
29 Patrice Luzi

Defenders

4 Sami Hyypia
2 Stephane Henchoz
3 Steve Finnan
23 Jamie Carragher
6 John Arne Riise
17 Josemi
21 Djimi Traore
36 Jon Otsemobor
31 David Raven
37 Zak Whitbread

Midfield

8 Steven Gerrard
16 Dietmar Hamann
7 Harry Kewell
14 Xabi Alonso
10 Luis Garcia
18 Antonio Nunez
28 Stephen Warnock
11 Vladimir Smicer
25 Igor Biscan
15 Salif Diao
32 John Welsh
34 Darren Potter
26 Richie Partridge
41 Mark Smyth
42 Robbie Foy
38 David Mannix
39 Ryan Wilkie

Strikers

5 Milan Baros
9 Djibril Cisse
24 Florent Sinama-Pongolle
33 Neil Mellor

by **laza** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:09 am

anfieldadorer wrote:Not very relevant, but who cares:

The Liverpool squad in full registered for the Champions League this season is:

Goalkeepers

1 Jerzy Dudek
22 Chris Kirkland
40 Paul Harrison
29 Patrice Luzi

Defenders

4 Sami Hyypia
2 Stephane Henchoz
3 Steve Finnan
23 Jamie Carragher
6 John Arne Riise
17 Josemi
21 Djimi Traore
36 Jon Otsemobor
31 David Raven
37 Zak Whitbread

Midfield

8 Steven Gerrard
16 Dietmar Hamann
7 Harry Kewell
14 Xabi Alonso
10 Luis Garcia
18 Antonio Nunez
28 Stephen Warnock
11 Vladimir Smicer
25 Igor Biscan
15 Salif Diao
32 John Welsh
34 Darren Potter
26 Richie Partridge
41 Mark Smyth
42 Robbie Foy
38 David Mannix
39 Ryan Wilkie

Strikers

5 Milan Baros
9 Djibril Cisse
24 Florent Sinama-Pongolle
33 Neil Mellor

The thread is 9 pages long so relevancy is irrelevent

So if we get someone in January who hasnt played CL with another team can they be added to this squad

by **Leonmc0708** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:59 am

John Barnes' Granny wrote:I have no problem, Leon, its you with the problem.

You've been sniping at AB for the last couple of threads and I think you and Stu are very quick to to swear people out of it merely because they say something "silly" or disagree with you.

AB is entitled to his opinion like everyone else, and if he's wrong he's wrong, but it ain't big and it ain't hard to sit behind a keyboard dishing out abuse or being disrespectful.

This out of towner thing is getting tiresome as well...

I have a problem with idiots bad mouthing the club I love. Not with any person in particular. I have disputed points with most people on this forum, stu the red included, and I will continue to do so as this is surely the purpose of a forum.

I have my own views and I stick by them.

AB has managed to tot up some 750 plus posts despite being a member for only three weeks, I think this speaks volumes for the quality involved.

I have not dished out any abuse on this forum for along time, I have been sarcastic and swore in the past, but not abusive. At first I became angered by other members and became abusive, you will notice that now I merely put forward my own argument, rather than swearing etc.

Your last comment is such a contradiction on yourself it is unreal.

You say everyone is entitled to their opinion. So IF that is my opinion (and I do not say it is) then you are simply being disrespectful to my opinion are you not?

by **jim_morrison_supported_liverpool** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:37 pm

adayinthelife wrote:It all depends on the manager and his ideas.

Do you think Wenger has his players working on defence 50% of the time

I doubt it very much as arsenal without the ball could be alot better which IMO is why they have yet to conquer europe as teams in the prem lge give them the ball back more often.

When they have the ball their pace,passing,touch and runs off the ball are a joy to watch and has no doubt been the result of working on attacking alot more than 50% of the time.

IMO Wenger is the best manager in the world and he works alot more on attacking,is on a record unbeaten run so who can argue with him and his ideas on how the game should be played

Attack is the best form of defence as if you have the ball the other team cannot score.

yes i do think wenger has his team working on defence
50% of the time.

its just not as obvious, attacking play catches the eye, but it doesnt mean they havent worked on defence, and still dont.

by **jonnymac1979** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:45 pm

This is great this thread, i've just read it back to back.

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