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by **laza** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:24 am

No shame in getting bitten by the black dog

Plenty of shame in gutless alter egos and yet another sympton of sad forum at moment

by **Sabre** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:30 am

My mother got depressed a year, and it was tough to see a woman full of vitality with little will to fight.

From outside you don't seem to be helping much, meaning, you feel as if you can't do much to get her out of the situation. But gladly the medication worked after a while and then she had not troubles again.

It was tough to understand what was going on for me, and it was difficult.

One wonders if our society is doing too many things wrong when we've got so many people depressed.

by **Big Niall** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:34 am

GYBS - I know you are military (in fact, you somehow claimed in another thread that i had a chip on my shoulder about the military, but I don't).

I saw a programme about a british ex soldier from first gulf war and he said he got no help about the mental pressures of fitting back into civilian life and that most men from macho professions don't have the courage to talk about their feelings.

nothing wrong with suffering from depression - I think churchill did too, as do many "funny men" like Spike Milligan

I don't know whether medication or some type of counselling is the answer but the experts should know.

As much as I disliked stan collymore, I admired him for talking about depression as i'm sure he knew most people would go "you're a footballer, getting loads of money you ungrateful sod"

Ignorance on this stuff is rife as the earlier post about "wallowing in it" proved.

by **Big Niall** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:36 am

Sabre wrote:My mother got depressed a year, and it was tough to see a woman full of vitality with little will to fight.

From outside you don't seem to be helping much, meaning, you feel as if you can't do much to get her out of the situation. But gladly the medication worked after a while and then she had not troubles again.

It was tough to understand what was going on for me, and it was difficult.

One wonders if our society is doing too many things wrong when we've got so many people depressed.

Obviously I don't know anything about your mother, many women get depression after birth and also during the menopause, chemical changes in a woman's body cause it.

I'm not referring to anybody on this thread but I do agree with a doctor I heard saying that being depressed is different to suffering from depression. An example would be if your dad died, you might be depressed about it but that is natural and does not need medication. depression is different.

by **freddies dead** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:37 am

Big Niall wrote:GYBS - I know you are military (in fact, you somehow claimed in another thread that i had a chip on my shoulder about the military, but I don't).

I saw a programme about a british ex soldier from first gulf war and he said he got no help about the mental pressures of fitting back into civilian life and that most men from macho professions don't have the courage to talk about their feelings.

nothing wrong with suffering from depression - I think churchill did too, as do many "funny men" like Spike Milligan

I don't know whether medication or some type of counselling is the answer but the experts should know.

As much as I disliked stan collymore, I admired him for talking about depression as i'm sure he knew most people would go "you're a footballer, getting loads of money you ungrateful sod"

Ignorance on this stuff is rife as the earlier post about "wallowing in it" proved.

its too easy to blame things on depression
granted those with "real" depression such as death of closeone have every right to be
its those who imo dont have anything to depressed about yet still go on about it that talk sh!te
stan collymore is a gob sh!te - not a good example that one kid

by **Ciggy** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:47 am

Big Niall wrote:An example would be if your dad died, you might be depressed about it but that is natural and does not need medication. depression is different.

depends.

by **Sabre** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:48 am

Big Niall wrote:
Sabre wrote:My mother got depressed a year, and it was tough to see a woman full of vitality with little will to fight.

From outside you don't seem to be helping much, meaning, you feel as if you can't do much to get her out of the situation. But gladly the medication worked after a while and then she had not troubles again.

It was tough to understand what was going on for me, and it was difficult.

One wonders if our society is doing too many things wrong when we've got so many people depressed.

Obviously I don't know anything about your mother, many women get depression after birth and also during the menopause, chemical changes in a woman's body cause it.

Yes, it may have been that, or that a sister of her broke the family unity for discussing about money (inheritances are sadly reasons of discussions in this country, it's sad), I'm not sure.

In the case of my mother it was depression. And the real improvement came when she went to the psychiatrist. Due to the ignorance of many of us, we often relate psychiatrist to straight jackets, but actually they are the most prepared to give you the proper medication. To be honest, the medication did work better than all the love and care we gave her.

by **GYBS** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:53 am

I was told i would never be fully cured of depression - when it starts i am given medication to help me level out to start with and to help me sleep and eat but the main help you get is from the counsellors who help you try and think in different ways about yourself and everything - the depression will never ever go away its learning how to deal with things that happen in life . The best one i have been shown is the cognitive behaviour therapy - it has helped me but there is loads of different ways to help people its finding the courage to stand up and get help , not everyone can find that due to society looking at it in the wrong way - people saying you are weak etc and that makes people just hide away from it and feel ashamed . Niall your spot on about the military initally thinking how can soldiers think that way and there inital reaction used to be "be a man and pull yourself together" but thankfully attitudes have changed for the better towards - shame that cant be said about the whole of society .

by **Judge** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:55 am

my worse time was when my dad died last year - miss him like hell

by **freddies dead** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:57 am

Judge wrote:my worse time was when my dad died last year - miss him like hell

sorry for your loss fella
no doubt there is depression there

i jus tthink others use it too easily as an excuse

doctors dont help mind - any o them will sign you off on depression at the dro pof a hat

by **Judge** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:58 am

each day gets better. me, my bro and sis make sure mum is ok. thats whats important now

by **freddies dead** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:59 am

Judge wrote:each day gets better. me, my bro and sis make sure mum is ok. thats whats important now

dead on fella

by **Dundalk** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:23 am

Last year I feel of a ladder at work and banged the back of my head. I was in hospital for a few days and when I came out I was told that it was possible that I might start to suffer with depression. Well they were right and for the next 3 months I was very down and struggled to deal with the simplest of things, everything in my head seemed a struggle and I didn't really want to go anywhere, just stay in the house.

Thankfully through medication and help around me I can out of and now am back to myself but it was a scary time. I learned a lot from it and I think I have come out of it a better person but its not something that should be joked about.

GYBS, just take each day as it comes and on the 24th of May you will be the happiest man in the world

by **freddies dead** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:27 am

Dundalk wrote:Last year I feel of a ladder at work and banged the back of my head. I was in hospital for a few days and when I came out I was told that it was possible that I might start to suffer with depression. Well they were right and for the next 3 months I was very down and struggled to deal with the simplest of things, everything in my head seemed a struggle and I didn't really want to go anywhere, just stay in the house.

Thankfully through medication and help around me I can out of and now am back to myself but it was a scary time. I learned a lot from it and I think I have come out of it a better person but its not something that should be joked about.

GYBS, just take each day as it comes and on the 24th of May you will be the happiest man in the world

sorry pal but do you think that by telling you you will/may get depressed they triggered your brain to think you were when in fact you werent ?

similar to a manger tellin players they are tired - tell them, enough and they will be ?

and your not my window cleaner are you

by **Dundalk** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:35 am

They did an ECG and the part of my head that was hit triggered it, it was an after effect. Ive since read a lot about it and it seems common enough.

And no im not a window cleaner

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