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dawson99 wrote:What happened to the Kuyt thread? And wheres all the moaning biatches now?

Well I'm here Daws' and I've been a moaner about Kuyt on many occasions. I thought he did very well when he came on yesterday. He was far more effective than N'gog had been in the previous hour, and although he had a smidge of fortune with his goal was very unlucky I thought with the offside decision. He did very well and deserves all the credit that he'll no doubt get.

I still don't think he's a front player in a million years for what it's worth, but credit where credit's due, he, Alonso and Torres changed the game when they came on. Mind you, I have to say that it wasn't exactly news to me that Kuyt, Alonso and Torres were better players than Dossena, N'Gog and whoever the feck else we brought off (sorry, minds gone).


On the subject of the "ah, where are they all now    " which you sometimes get after a win, there is an element of damned if you do damned if you don't. I was on here straight away after the final whistle yesterday, and didn't exactly get the best reception I think it's fair to say. I'd called the selection ridiculous before the game so thought it was only right to be around, but it didn't seem to make much odds. The Worlds a strange place sometimes, but none the less interesting for it.

dawson99 wrote:What happened to the Kuyt thread? And wheres all the moaning biatches now?

dawson99 wrote:The selection was awful, but it worked,

bigmick wrote:

dawson99 wrote:The selection was awful, but it worked,

It's an intersting one this. Did the selection "work"? If we eventually won the game, does it by definition mean the selection "worked", or is there more to it than that? We were 2-1 down to Portsmouth after 86 minutes and got an equaliser and a winner within the last four minutes, courtesy of two substitutes who would feature in our strongest eleven but who weren't selected. We brought Alonso on to try and get something going (ditto the first eleven bit) as we'd fallen behind.

We did though eventually win the game. Does that mean the selection worked? If we lost any games then, does that mean the selection was wrong? It's definately an interesting one.

I think the selection certainly worked in the sense it made the game more interesting, but I'm not totally sure that's what we were actually trying to achieve.

dawson99 wrote:It's good to rub your faces in it when he does something right lol

Fortunately for those who don't like having their faces rubbed in it, it's not something they have to put up with very often.

I actually don't mind having my face rubbed in it (in a football sense obviously  ) and would be quite happy if Dirk gave people the ammo to do it on a regular basis. I'd be more than happy for my face to chapped and friction burnt to within an inch of its life such was the frequency and the intensity of the said face rubbing. I won't it has to be said though be booking a corrective session down the dermatologist just yet, I think they charge a cancellation fee.

dawson99 wrote:there was no shoulder to lean on in the shape of Stevie or Torres.

Or indeed cry on. "Score us a goal Stevie, come on Nando FFS    I know we've played sh!t but c'mon guys, do it for us one more time, c'mon Stevie, whaddaya say hmm. Dig us out of the sh!t again will ya    "

  Just kidding before I got fecking dogs abuse.

bigmick wrote:Turned out to be a good thread in the end, one of the better match ones.

The excitement is great, and as long as you win the match it's much more exciting to come back from 2-1 down with four minutes to go and win it with a header 90 seconds from time than it is to go there and win 2-0. Even I can see that, and yes I enjoyed the moment just like everyone else did. To the fella a couple of pages back who quoted a post of mine when I was in the middle of a disagreement and asked why I couldn't just enjoy it without long posts all the time, he ought to read back further. Fifteen seconds after the game finished, I posted "Tactical genius ". I can't post any shorter than two words, although to some sometimes I can think of shorter words .

But anyway, the excitement was great, and though lacking in real quality from a football sense it has to be said it was a brilliant game. Absolutely magnetic on the eyes, and about as far removed from the turgid Wigan Away as you could possibly get. I commented in the rotation thread that it was really hard to pick formations and stuff, simply because the game was so broken up, "crazy" in Rafa's words of previous weeks. There is part of me that wishes we could play like that more often in all honesty (not with the bonkers team selection obviously) but with the same intensity. It kind of seems to suit us. Like kids who are given the chance to not wear uniforms for the day, it seems to bring our personality out more. Suddenly we seem more passionate, more connected with proceedings.

Sometimes our attacking play can look as well drilled as our defensive play, and as a consequence we seem to have a reluctance to go "off the cuff", to try something, to commit into an area where we haven't been previously or you couldn't pick. Our obsession with "control" can translate into predictability, and as against Everton it's no good "controlling" the game if you don't make a chance. Not for the first time this season when we have been deep, deep in the sh!te (and it doesn't come much deeper than 2-1 down to a relegation team with 4 minutes to go when you're going for the title), we've thrown the shackles off and produced something. I'm coming around to the idea that this kind of cup-tie, freestyle mode actually works in our favour to some extent and I'd like to see us use it more. Gerrard is made for that game, the high tempo, Roy of the Rovers stuff and even Kuyt's particular "gifts" lend themselves perfectly to it. It's just a thought but I like us when we really go for it, and not just because it's exciting to watch.

The last thing which needs to be said about the team selection is that bonkers or not, now we've won it while giving Alonso, Kuyt and Torres a rest, it is a bit of a result it has to be said. I wouldn't have risked losing the game so readily in order to achieve this, but no matter we did risk it, it was very fecking close to backfiring but we came through. The Manc result again shows how big a risk it was, even a draw would probably have seen the engraver sharpening his tolls for the 2008-2009 winners slot around the side of the Premiership trophy. It was a huge result, they don't come much bigger. Onwards and upwards, and of course, get in there   

Top post mick . Us off the cuff ,, would you adam and eve it mate .