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by **Judge** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:06 pm

Ciggy wrote:
GOAT_2.0 wrote:does nobody have anything positive to contribute?

Start a positive topic no moaners aloud

would that be allowed

by **supersub** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:44 pm

not a happy clapper and I'm not a forum doom and gloomer...just a realist who predicts this season we will be involved in the title race a lot longer than previous years and I'm glad to be a part of that.Hopefully we will be successful and lay the ghost on May 24.; If we fail then we were just not good enough and it's off to Rome to bring Big Ears back home.

It reminds me of he 85/86 campaign when we had some terrible results over December and the new year culminating in a defeat by Everton at Anfield.The moaners were out in force then...Dalglish not good enough blah blah......

just remember there are a lot of points to be won and lost by all competitors before the cups are won in May.

:;):

by **mistyred** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:59 pm

You know the difference Lee is that "Shut up" comment was directed at one or more.

Yano the funny thing is football is, it's game of opinions and after waiting for this
moment for so long a lot of supporters don't want anything that could
have been avoided to derail us at the crucial moment's in our season.

by **Ace Ventura** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:42 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Owzat wrote:we also have to host Chelsea and Arsenal which won't be easy, we drew at home to both last season (and away)

Indeed it won't be easy because, say what you will about Chelsea, they're resilient. They'll have been stung deeply by the result yesterday but they'll bounce back rather than implode and the first thing they'll do is circle the calendar for their end of the month visit to Anfield. A result against us and they're back in the mix so we'll need to put in a very fine performance indeed to turn them over. We've arrived at the business end of the season already and it's only January.

I think we will beat Chelsea at Anfield quite easily in all honesty Bob, they look woeful at the moment, i know its a few weeks away and they could pick up some form by then but i am not convinced at all by them.
They started the season brilliantly but havent coped at all well with losing Drogba, Essien and Carvalho, and they look like a team now that to me needs to be broken up.
Drogba yesterday looked like he didnt even want to be on the pitch, same with Ballack.
Deco looks past his best as well, and Scolari seems to play him no matter what.

United obviously looked menancing yesterday and have put themselves into a very good position, but you never know.
We do still have to go there as do Arsenal, also the likes of Everton Villa and Spurs could give them a game.
All is not lost, things could be better regarding points dropped etc, and there are things that we all could criticise about team selection sat and that but for some reason am in an unbeat mood today and trying to still see the positives.

We are top at the moment and we would all of taken that at this stage before the season started imo.

by **Judge** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:56 pm

tbh, we never seem happy

but i understand that we are desperate to bring home the title, so its inevitable that we will still moan and groan if we dont always get the right result we wish for.

Lets be strictly sensible here - it will take a massive effort to win the title, and i feel it will be a close one this season, but i do think we have the right mentality (now im rafa

) to win it.

however, i think we do need one or two players in this january

by **tubby** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:06 pm

I agree Judge we do need 1 or 2 players in Jan but I dont think we will get any. Any quality ones that we need anyway. We will if anything get some random free signing who contributes nothing to the side. Yes it is an enormous task and we are top now so on the surface of it you would have to say we can do it. Do we have the mentality though? Well id like to say yes but any potential champions would not let points slip at home the way we have. Im sorry but I think we have thrown it away this year.

by **dawson99** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:14 pm

Bad Bob wrote:I felt yesterday that we'd reached a defining moment in the season this past weekend and I still feel the same today. Paradoxically, we increased our lead on Chelsea (which is lovely) but sacrificed some significant momentum to the Mancs, who will in all probability brush Wigan aside midweek, get a result at Bolton on Saturday and sit top of the table for a couple of days while we wait for the derby to roll around. We've given them a sniff now and they are going to be right there with us in the blink of an eye. I hope I'm wrong and they trip up against Wigan and Bolton but somehow I don't think so. Let's hope the lads can hold their nerve, keep the race tight and we'll see what happens come May.

With that said, I really don't buy into this notion that we "could have been 12 points clear" by now because it's premised on the notion that we should have won virtually all of our games to date. No team wins all their games in this league. Even Arsenal's "invincibles" racked up a bunch of draws in their undefeated season so I think it's a little naive to suggest that we should be well out in front of the chasing pack at this point. Perhaps it's more realistic to suggest that we might have been 5-6 points clear at this stage if we'd won some of the games we drew. Of course, you could say the same for Chelsea and the Mancs, who certainly will also feel entitled to think they'd be top of the pile now if they'd won some of the games where they dropped points. I suppose it all evens out.

Wigan have won 6 of the last 7... so brushing aside maybe be a slightly flippant remark at the moment mate.

by **tonyeh** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:18 pm

Man Utd yesterday played arguably the strongest team after them in the league and brushed THEM aside with relative ease.

I cannot see them having any problem with Wigan or Bolton in any way shape or form.

by **dawson99** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:19 pm

tonyeh wrote:Man Utd yesterday played arguably the strongest team after them in the league and brushed THEM aside with relative ease.

I cannot see them having any problem with Wigan or Bolton in any way shape or form.

did you watch the game? If Chelsea are the 2nd stroingest team in the league then ... I dunno... they are not the second strongest team in the league! They were fecking awful.

by **tubby** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:20 pm

It's only us or Arsenal who can take points of Utd now imo.

by **Judge** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:23 pm

in one weeks time we maybe vcrowing that manure have thrown it away with two draws against wigan and bolton

if they do, then that will have to rattle benitez's cage to at the very least play a stronger team, and worry about what we can do to others, and not worry about what other teams can do to us! (ciggy made those same sentiments and i agree).

we need to be more aggressive going forward, and not play along the back four for long periods passing it around, then back to reina. only for him to pump it up field

we played too many long balls against stoke and lacked idea

It is easy to rectify, by going more attack style. we have a great defence, so why the caution?!?

by **supersub** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:29 pm

bavlondon wrote:It's only us or Arsenal who can take points of Utd now imo.

I very much doubt that......

Are you saying that manu, having drawn with Arsenal,being defeated by us at Old Trafford and winning the other remaining games, they will end up with 93 points and therefore losing the league because we finished with 97 points....today is getting better all the time...

nah ! everyone will still be winning losing and drawing all the way to the final day.....it has always been like that since sky invented footy back in the 90's :laugh:

by **tonyeh** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:34 pm

dawson99 wrote:
tonyeh wrote:Man Utd yesterday played arguably the strongest team after them in the league and brushed THEM aside with relative ease.

I cannot see them having any problem with Wigan or Bolton in any way shape or form.

did you watch the game? If Chelsea are the 2nd stroingest team in the league then ... I dunno... they are not the second strongest team in the league! They were fecking awful.

I'm talking overall.

Yes, they'd had a bad run, but make no mistake Chelsea are a strong outfit.

by **supersub** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:37 pm

tonyeh wrote:Yes, they'd had a bad run, but make no mistake Chelsea are a strong outfit.

only as strong as their weakest link

by **taff** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:38 pm

Whatever happens Ive been waiting years and jealously watching the other three having their spats and rivalries and now we are right in the middle of it. The bust up with Mr Ferguson, the heat is on us and them, its great

We are not in the top four anymore we are in a title race.

Im not wishing bad vibes on the mancs out of hatred anymore Im wishing bad vibes on them as we are challenging. Isnt it great watching the league table and moaning about dropped points and working out various results to help us.

This weekend might not have worked out as I hoped but I get the feeling today that its us and the mancs head to head. Its not over for Chelsea or Arsenal but until things change and they might its purely down to us and the mancs and I cant remember the last time this happened on the serious level that its happening now. They had a decent run now and again in the eighties but were never true contenders and the same for us if Im honest since that glorious decade.

Fergie the great mind manipulator etc etc but its never been with us their most hated of rivals. Aresenal and Chelsea were taken seriously by him of course but its us that scares him to his core.

Get off your fecking Perch you manc ****

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