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Don't forget the fourplay before with the wives
Ryder cup
by ste123lfc » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:17 pm
Don't forget the fourplay before with the wives
From Shankly to Brendan we follow our team, Rome to Istanbul we've all lived the dream. Our journey is long, our goal stays the same, to keep for our children the famous red name.
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by GYBS » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:23 pm
I think with the rookies there will be more pressure on thr Yank rookies , one thing faldo is and always has been is a great mentor to young kids in golf . in the seve trophy he wasnt afraid to pair young ones and rookies together and they performed for him .
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by GYBS » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:45 pm
JoeTerp wrote:I think we should have the Ryder Cup again next year, the US played much better when the matches were held in their proper odd numbered year.
did they ? lost in both 97 and 95 wasnt it ?
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by Emerald Red » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:49 pm
Number 9 wrote:ste123lfc wrote:Woods knee is still f*cked. he had surgery after the USPGA.
Shame!
Wont be the same without him!
All the big names should be there
Woods is always shyte in the Ryder anyway. America will probably be better off without him.
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by Judge » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:07 pm
Number 9 wrote:ste123lfc wrote:Woods knee is still f*cked. he had surgery after the USPGA.
Shame!
Wont be the same without him!
All the big names should be there
tell woods to swong the club with his arms not his legs then
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by RUSHIE#9 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:00 pm
Emerald Red wrote:Number 9 wrote:ste123lfc wrote:Woods knee is still f*cked. he had surgery after the USPGA.
Shame!
Wont be the same without him!
All the big names should be there
Woods is always shyte in the Ryder anyway. America will probably be better off without him.
All comes down to money with Woods IMO. It might be cynical to say that but when you're one of the worlds richest sports people then you have to look at it that way. When he plays in normal comps with big pay cheques he's nearly always untouchable. The only time that I wouldn't accuse him of being all about the money is the majors. It's clear to see that they mean a lot to him but ask him what his top 3 golfing priorities are and he'll probably say:
1. Win as many majors as possible.
2. Stay top of the Money list.
3. Ryder Cup (possibly)!
If the Americans didn't have nearly as many rookies as the Europeans in then I'd say they'd walk it this time, but they have quite a few plus two that are playing in their home state and the pressure of the crowds expectation may just get to them.
I think that Europe will retain the trophy at the very least.
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by JoeTerp » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:43 pm
GYBS wrote:JoeTerp wrote:I think we should have the Ryder Cup again next year, the US played much better when the matches were held in their proper odd numbered year.
did they ? lost in both 97 and 95 wasnt it ?
yea but we won like 80% of the ones before that when it was just British or British and Irish.
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by JoeTerp » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:45 pm
Members of the U.S. Ryder Cup team (L-R in white: Justin Leonard, Hunter Mahan, Anthony Kim and Phil Mickelson) bond during a practice round at Valhalla.
Prediction columns are like Velveeta recipes—too easy and too cheesy. But what's going to happen in Louisville at the Ryder Cup starting Friday will go down as the greatest shocker since Lyle Lovett married Julia Roberts, so here goes:
The Americans, playing without Tiger Woods, hopelessly outmanned, with their worst on-paper team since Europe was added to the mix, will pull the Cupset of the Century. They'll need 14½ points to win, which is weird, because that's exactly how many reasons there are that they will.
1. For the first time in 12 years, Tiger's out. This will work for the Yanks! Tiger doesn't like this thing. Can you blame him? Does the executioner play on the prison softball team? No. So that Tiger buzzkill is gone. American players are free to care about it, hard. Plus, without Tiger, they're The Little Team That Could. Best of all, the Euros, who usually go bat-guano-crazy whenever they beat Tiger, have no Goliath to slay. Buzzkill back at you.
NO EURO IS GOING TO FALL ON A GRENADE TO WIN FOR NICK FALDO. I'M NOT SURE THEY'D FALL ON A PILLOW MINT.
2. Europe captain Nick Faldo screwed the pooch by not picking Colin Montgomerie. It doesn't matter how bad Monty's playing, when he comes to the Ryder Cup, he becomes Jack Nicklaus on beta blockers. He makes everything. This is a mistake the size of New Coke.
3. There is a man on the Euro team named Oliver Wilson. It was unclear at press time whether Wilson was a member of Parliament or the team haberdasher. It may have been a misprint. He is the first Euro to make the team without ever winning a pro tournament. Perhaps he is Faldo's butler.
4. Word is USA captain Paul Azinger is setting up Valhalla like a $19 muni, so the Euros' fancy punches and miracle gunch shots won't help. It'll be: bomb the driver, float the wedge, bury the putt. Hell, J.B. Holmes may even skip the wedge part. This USA team is longer than Tolstoy.
5. Euros like hard courses and nasty weather. Louisville forecast: sunny, 80 degrees, fairways as open as new 7-Elevens.
6. Faldo, a great announcer, was icy as a player and he'll be icy as a coach. He usually eats dinner in his room, where—no joke—he'll practice his drops. No Euro will fall on a grenade to win for him. I'm not sure they'd fall on a pillow mint.
Bonus Half Point Reason: More about Faldo the Fridge. He's such a loner he only has one assistant coach. Zinger has three. So when those morning matches end and Faldo's got 20 mad minutes to figure out who's hot, who's not, who wants to play again right away, who needs a blow and who needs a new partner, he'll need information. He'll need a pair of smart eyes on all four matches. Can't do it with only two sets. Duh.
7. Every Ryder Cup mints a new star. This time it will be Anthony Kim, a bad
and a huge talent who's too young to know how big this is. He's about to get very rich.
8. There's a grittiness to this team I haven't seen since the Corey Pavin teams in the early '90s. Holmes is tougher than a Costco steak. He went iris-to-iris with Tiger for most of the Accenture Match Play. Justin Leonard is the Hero of Brookline —the last American win, back in 1999—and still has glorious bloodstains on him. Steve Stricker won the Accenture, which is about as close to a Ryder Cup Starter Kit as you can get. Jim Furyk and Stewart Cink have steel sacks. And Boo Weekley once said, "It isn't that I don't give a s***, I just don't give a s*** about golf." You think he'll be scared?
9. Zinger has a new strategy. He doesn't give a deceased rodent how comfy the team-room couches are. Last time out, Tom Lehman gave the players the best experience ever and still got fricasseed. "I don't want them happy and comfortable," Zinger says. "I want them nervous and a little tense from the start. Because otherwise, when you get to that first tee Friday morning, you're gonna be shocked at the pressure." Smart.
10. Silence is intimidating. Well, Chad Campbell is quieter than a one-man funeral. Ben Curtis doesn't say 10 words in a round. Furyk and Cink can make you think your hearing has gone. You need to lean in to hear Stricker. This squad would make excellent mimes. …
11. … Except for Weekley. Finally, America has somebody who can say how a lot of people feel about Europe and lettuce sandwiches and $9 cups of Starbucks. The Alligator Hunter once came to the British Open and, when asked about the food, declared he didn't like it one bit. Why? "Ain't got no sweet tea and ain't got no fried chicken." Team spokesman!
12. The USA has six rookies who don't know the Euros usually whip the Americans like Rachael Ray whips eggs. They don't know about losing five of the last six, two of 'em Little Bighorns. Ignorance is bliss.
13. Faldo violated the time-honored Too Many Swedes theory. Swedes are the sweetest people on earth. Wouldn't hurt a kipper. No Swede has ever won a major. Faldo's got two on his team.
14. Azinger has always had Faldo's number. In four matches over three Ryder Cups, Faldo never got better than a tie against him. He won't even get that this time.
That's my prediction. If I'm wrong, I'll tongue bathe Windsor Castle.
Prediction columns are like Velveeta recipes—too easy and too cheesy. But what's going to happen in Louisville at the Ryder Cup starting Friday will go down as the greatest shocker since Lyle Lovett married Julia Roberts, so here goes:
The Americans, playing without Tiger Woods, hopelessly outmanned, with their worst on-paper team since Europe was added to the mix, will pull the Cupset of the Century. They'll need 14½ points to win, which is weird, because that's exactly how many reasons there are that they will.
1. For the first time in 12 years, Tiger's out. This will work for the Yanks! Tiger doesn't like this thing. Can you blame him? Does the executioner play on the prison softball team? No. So that Tiger buzzkill is gone. American players are free to care about it, hard. Plus, without Tiger, they're The Little Team That Could. Best of all, the Euros, who usually go bat-guano-crazy whenever they beat Tiger, have no Goliath to slay. Buzzkill back at you.
NO EURO IS GOING TO FALL ON A GRENADE TO WIN FOR NICK FALDO. I'M NOT SURE THEY'D FALL ON A PILLOW MINT.
2. Europe captain Nick Faldo screwed the pooch by not picking Colin Montgomerie. It doesn't matter how bad Monty's playing, when he comes to the Ryder Cup, he becomes Jack Nicklaus on beta blockers. He makes everything. This is a mistake the size of New Coke.
3. There is a man on the Euro team named Oliver Wilson. It was unclear at press time whether Wilson was a member of Parliament or the team haberdasher. It may have been a misprint. He is the first Euro to make the team without ever winning a pro tournament. Perhaps he is Faldo's butler.
4. Word is USA captain Paul Azinger is setting up Valhalla like a $19 muni, so the Euros' fancy punches and miracle gunch shots won't help. It'll be: bomb the driver, float the wedge, bury the putt. Hell, J.B. Holmes may even skip the wedge part. This USA team is longer than Tolstoy.
5. Euros like hard courses and nasty weather. Louisville forecast: sunny, 80 degrees, fairways as open as new 7-Elevens.
6. Faldo, a great announcer, was icy as a player and he'll be icy as a coach. He usually eats dinner in his room, where—no joke—he'll practice his drops. No Euro will fall on a grenade to win for him. I'm not sure they'd fall on a pillow mint.
Bonus Half Point Reason: More about Faldo the Fridge. He's such a loner he only has one assistant coach. Zinger has three. So when those morning matches end and Faldo's got 20 mad minutes to figure out who's hot, who's not, who wants to play again right away, who needs a blow and who needs a new partner, he'll need information. He'll need a pair of smart eyes on all four matches. Can't do it with only two sets. Duh.
7. Every Ryder Cup mints a new star. This time it will be Anthony Kim, a bad
and a huge talent who's too young to know how big this is. He's about to get very rich.8. There's a grittiness to this team I haven't seen since the Corey Pavin teams in the early '90s. Holmes is tougher than a Costco steak. He went iris-to-iris with Tiger for most of the Accenture Match Play. Justin Leonard is the Hero of Brookline —the last American win, back in 1999—and still has glorious bloodstains on him. Steve Stricker won the Accenture, which is about as close to a Ryder Cup Starter Kit as you can get. Jim Furyk and Stewart Cink have steel sacks. And Boo Weekley once said, "It isn't that I don't give a s***, I just don't give a s*** about golf." You think he'll be scared?
9. Zinger has a new strategy. He doesn't give a deceased rodent how comfy the team-room couches are. Last time out, Tom Lehman gave the players the best experience ever and still got fricasseed. "I don't want them happy and comfortable," Zinger says. "I want them nervous and a little tense from the start. Because otherwise, when you get to that first tee Friday morning, you're gonna be shocked at the pressure." Smart.
10. Silence is intimidating. Well, Chad Campbell is quieter than a one-man funeral. Ben Curtis doesn't say 10 words in a round. Furyk and Cink can make you think your hearing has gone. You need to lean in to hear Stricker. This squad would make excellent mimes. …
11. … Except for Weekley. Finally, America has somebody who can say how a lot of people feel about Europe and lettuce sandwiches and $9 cups of Starbucks. The Alligator Hunter once came to the British Open and, when asked about the food, declared he didn't like it one bit. Why? "Ain't got no sweet tea and ain't got no fried chicken."
Team spokesman!12. The USA has six rookies who don't know the Euros usually whip the Americans like Rachael Ray whips eggs. They don't know about losing five of the last six, two of 'em Little Bighorns. Ignorance is bliss.
13. Faldo violated the time-honored Too Many Swedes theory. Swedes are the sweetest people on earth. Wouldn't hurt a kipper. No Swede has ever won a major. Faldo's got two on his team.
14. Azinger has always had Faldo's number. In four matches over three Ryder Cups, Faldo never got better than a tie against him. He won't even get that this time.
That's my prediction. If I'm wrong, I'll tongue bathe Windsor Castle.
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by JoeTerp » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:37 pm
Number 9 wrote:
Keep praying Joe!
Bet you wont be one here laughing on Sunday when its all over!
I am thinking about putting down a large wager on the European team. And player by player basis I would have to say Paddy and Sergio are my two most favorite players in the competition followed by Mahan, Kim, and Holmes whom I only like a little bit. I used to like Phil back when he was a short game specialist with all these crazy tricks in the bag, now I can't
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by LFC2007 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:43 pm
It doesn't come much better than the Ryder cup for any type of sporting event, IMO. Great entertainment and passion to succeed from both sides.
Although our team's solid (I'm European btw ), it's missing one or two of the characters it's had in the past four years e.g. Clarke, Mcginley, Montgomery. I'd have liked to have seen Clarke in there, even if he isn't in great form, he's a character and that's what's galvanised us for the past two Ryder cups.
Our team is more solid than the American's, but you just never know with this thing, their best players haven't performed that well in the past, and for us, Harrington hasn't a great record either, so the tour form book isn't all that reflective in Ryder cups.
Morning foursomes:
Kim & Mickelson - Harrington & Karlsson - 1:05 (BST)
Leonard & Mahan - Stenson & Casey - 1:20
Cink & Campbell - Poulter & Rose - 1:35
Furyk & Perry - Westwood & Garcia - 1:50
Although our team's solid (I'm European btw
), it's missing one or two of the characters it's had in the past four years e.g. Clarke, Mcginley, Montgomery. I'd have liked to have seen Clarke in there, even if he isn't in great form, he's a character and that's what's galvanised us for the past two Ryder cups. Our team is more solid than the American's, but you just never know with this thing, their best players haven't performed that well in the past, and for us, Harrington hasn't a great record either, so the tour form book isn't all that reflective in Ryder cups.
Morning foursomes:
Kim & Mickelson - Harrington & Karlsson - 1:05 (BST)
Leonard & Mahan - Stenson & Casey - 1:20
Cink & Campbell - Poulter & Rose - 1:35
Furyk & Perry - Westwood & Garcia - 1:50
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by stmichael » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:56 pm
LFC2007 wrote:Morning foursomes:
Kim & Mickelson - Harrington & Karlsson - 1:05 (BST)
Leonard & Mahan - Stenson & Casey - 1:20
Cink & Campbell - Poulter & Rose - 1:35
Furyk & Perry - Westwood & Garcia - 1:50
3-1 to europe there i reckon
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by LFC2007 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:02 pm
stmichael wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Morning foursomes:
Kim & Mickelson - Harrington & Karlsson - 1:05 (BST)
Leonard & Mahan - Stenson & Casey - 1:20
Cink & Campbell - Poulter & Rose - 1:35
Furyk & Perry - Westwood & Garcia - 1:50
3-1 to europe there i reckon
I think Stenson/Casey, Westwood/Garcia will take them down without much bother, but the other two I'm not so sure about. Cink is one of their best players, Campbell's sh!te but you never know. Harrington/Karlsson are solid players, but Kim is supposed to be very talented and Mickelson has the talent, it's whether he's in form or not that matters. I'll go with 3-1 though.
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