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by **JC_81** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:14 pm

Number 9 wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:Further Addition. Unless you are a British citizen or a bona fide resident of this country you do not qualify for unemployment benefits, housing benefits and free medical treatment.

(If introduced that should immediately see a substantial number of unwanted immigrants scarper to the next nation that wants to be mugged)

True yes!
Then the do gooders would complain that the poor immigrants were being neglected and being denied their human rights!
Personally i wouldnt give a fu'ck,once word gets about that theres nothing free here for anyone they would go elsewhere!

Trouble is it's not just the immigrants taking the pi.ss out of these laws.

Lazy fu.cks are sponging dole left, right and centre with no intention of working while the rest of us work to fund their alcohol, tobacco and drug habits. I am not talking about people who genuinely can't work for whatever reason. Why are immigrants able to come over here and find work? Because so many Brits would rather sit on their :censored:

on benefits than go out and try and get a job, that's the sad fact.

Housing benefits? Stop giving council houses to wee slappers who've gone and got themselves up the duff deliberately to get a house. There are plenty of them.

Free medical treatment? I'm so sick of moaning :censored:

complaining about the state of the NHS when they don't know they're well off. Would they rather have the system the states have? Don't fu.cking think so. Yes everyone knows someone who knows someone who had a bad experience in hospital - their pillows weren't fluffed up enough, they caught d&v or worse still MRSA. It's all bollox. Let's make all hospitals private then and watch people beg to have it back the way it was.

by **dawson99** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:25 pm

addition to the law:

watch jeremey kyle and you are kicked out of the country. Appear on it and you're killed

by **Judge** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:45 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Judge wrote:if i were PM

cut foreign aid to invest in this country - we have 2 million of our own population on the streets (who helps them?)

Just on this point alone, an extract from DFID (Department for International Development) the gov't department that allocates our money to other countries.

Bilateral expenditure on Grants, Technical Cooperation (TC), and Other Aid in Kind increased by £97 million to £1.23 billion in 2006/07, an increase of 9%.

We gave away £1.23 BILLION !!!!

dawson the funding from cutting foreign aid alone will go into the nation mate to fund some of my policies

everyone else, i take on board your info and would implement it all

vote for me for PM

by **Number 9** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:24 pm

Judge wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
Judge wrote:if i were PM

cut foreign aid to invest in this country - we have 2 million of our own population on the streets (who helps them?)

Just on this point alone, an extract from DFID (Department for International Development) the gov't department that allocates our money to other countries.

Bilateral expenditure on Grants, Technical Cooperation (TC), and Other Aid in Kind increased by £97 million to £1.23 billion in 2006/07, an increase of 9%.

We gave away £1.23 BILLION !!!!

dawson the funding from cutting foreign aid alone will go into the nation mate to fund some of my policies

everyone else, i take on board your info and would implement it all

vote for me for PM

Judge you seem to be taking this campaign very seriously!

by **Number 9** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:29 pm

john craig wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:Further Addition. Unless you are a British citizen or a bona fide resident of this country you do not qualify for unemployment benefits, housing benefits and free medical treatment.

(If introduced that should immediately see a substantial number of unwanted immigrants scarper to the next nation that wants to be mugged)

True yes!
Then the do gooders would complain that the poor immigrants were being neglected and being denied their human rights!
Personally i wouldnt give a fu'ck,once word gets about that theres nothing free here for anyone they would go elsewhere!

Trouble is it's not just the immigrants taking the pi.ss out of these laws.

Lazy fu.cks are sponging dole left, right and centre with no intention of working while the rest of us work to fund their alcohol, tobacco and drug habits. I am not talking about people who genuinely can't work for whatever reason. Why are immigrants able to come over here and find work? Because so many Brits would rather sit on their on benefits than go out and try and get a job, that's the sad fact.

Housing benefits? Stop giving council houses to wee slappers who've gone and got themselves up the duff deliberately to get a house. There are plenty of them.

Free medical treatment? I'm so sick of moaning complaining about the state of the NHS when they don't know they're well off. Would they rather have the system the states have? Don't fu.cking think so. Yes everyone knows someone who knows someone who had a bad experience in hospital - their pillows weren't fluffed up enough, they caught d&v or worse still MRSA. It's all bollox. Let's make all hospitals private then and watch people beg to have it back the way it was.

True John i've seen it all here too mate.I dont know how they get away with some of the moves they pull!
Your right about girls getting a bun in the oven for housing that happens a lot.

Know what really cracks me up,people getting free cars on DLA or mobility(whatever its called) for fuc'k all off the government and using them as taxis!I know for a fact it happens...They arent legit of course but you will know with some of the taxi firms in Belfast that does'nt matter!
Then if they get fed up taxing they use them to deliver chineses or Pizzas...while paying no rent and getting free handouts!! :veryangry

by **JC_81** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:40 pm

Number 9 wrote:Know what really cracks me up,people getting free cars on DLA or mobility(whatever its called) for fuc'k all off the government and using them as taxis!I know for a fact it happens...They arent legit of course but you will know with some of the taxi firms in Belfast that does'nt matter!
Then if they get fed up taxing they use them to deliver chineses or Pizzas...while paying no rent and getting free handouts!!

Forgot about that one, it's a cracker too :laugh:

You need to have a real brass neck to try :censored:

like that!

Here's another one - 'carer's allowance'. Designed to compensate people who do not work but rather look after a family member who has a disability (and obviously my rant's not directed at genuine cases). Every :censored:

's at it now. So not only are the people faking disability living on handouts, but their son/daughter/whoever else is getting a handout despite the fact they probably have some cash in hand bar job or labouring job and shouldn't qualify. :censored:

scandalous.

by **dawson99** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:47 pm

A terror suspect said to have "direct links" with Osama Bin Laden has been freed on bail, the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Siac) has said.

The Algerian, who can be identified only as "U", has been released from Long Lartin high-security prison, in Worcestershire.

He had spent more than seven years in jail awaiting deportation.

Why didnt someone just kick him out? 7 years waiting deportation? WTF seriously... these people in charge actually collect a wage and a re proud of what they are doing??

by **NANNY RED** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:20 pm

This is what England has come to

Aki's 'let me squeeze muscles' appeal

Jul 3 2008 Chloe Griffiths

A LIVERPOOL man has launched an appeal to quash an order banning him from squeezing young boys’ muscles and demanding they squat.

But Liverpool Crown Court heard "infamous" Akinwale Arobieke compiled a "stalker’s manual" packed full of details about victims’ body measurements, contact numbers and families.

Police collected more than 100 complaints against the 6ft 5in 46-year-old centred around his "long-standing obsession with young men’s muscles".

Officers gathered so many that they eventually stopped taking statements.

Twenty-stone Arobieke was jailed for six years in 2003 for 16 counts of harassment.

He admitted having an "unusual interest in muscles, the development of muscles and the potential of young men to improve their physique".

While he served his sentence Merseyside police successfully applied for a sexual offences prevention order (SOPO).

But now Arobieke, who has never been convicted of a sexual assault, is trying to get the restrictive order overturned.

He insists that he gets no sexual gratification from touching muscles.

But Kendrick Horne, for the crown, told how his victims, including one who is now a professional rugby player, told of his sexual excitement as Arobieke rubbed up against them.

DC Patrick Kilgannon told how Arobieke became sexually aroused while forcing terrified young men to perform "inverted piggybacks" – ordering them to squat so he could lean over their backs with his face by their buttocks and his genitalia on their necks, while squeezing their quad muscles.

The court heard in one instance Arobieke, formerly of Cavendish Gardens, Toxteth, became obsessed with a body- builder and is alleged to have followed him to Tenerife where he assaulted him.

He also scared three brothers so much they felt they were living "under siege", leading to one boy having a mental breakdown.

Their mother, who began to suffer palpitations, told the police: "I was scared of my sons possibly getting raped."

Mr Horne said when Arobieke’s home was searched police found "numerous photographs of powerfully-built young men with personal details of the men and their families; copious hand-written notes in relation to other young males around the country including body part measurements and an address book (referred to as the stalker’s manual)."

He added: "The appellant would repeatedly approach boys and young men who did weight training or played rugby.

"Before some encounters the appellant would do research into his victim, confronting them with such details as their father’s car registration number or sibling’s place of education."

He would then take them to secluded spots to "feel their muscles, make them do squat thrusts and jump on their backs".

(Proceeding)

by **zarababe** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:05 pm

Judge wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
Judge wrote:if i were PM

cut foreign aid to invest in this country - we have 2 million of our own population on the streets (who helps them?)

Just on this point alone, an extract from DFID (Department for International Development) the gov't department that allocates our money to other countries.

Bilateral expenditure on Grants, Technical Cooperation (TC), and Other Aid in Kind increased by £97 million to £1.23 billion in 2006/07, an increase of 9%.

We gave away £1.23 BILLION !!!!

dawson the funding from cutting foreign aid alone will go into the nation mate to fund some of my policies

everyone else, i take on board your info and would implement it all

vote for me for PM

But Judge you can't have it both ways - What's it to be are ya standing for Moderator or PM

by **66-1112520797** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:09 pm

andy_g wrote:of course its a piece of p!ss for the (mostly) white males in this thread to express these sort of views. i can't believe anyone native to any of the more economically successful european countries can think they have it so bad.

What an ignorant comment. :glare:

by **andy_g** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:47 pm

Bamaga man wrote:
andy_g wrote:of course its a piece of p!ss for the (mostly) white males in this thread to express these sort of views. i can't believe anyone native to any of the more economically successful european countries can think they have it so bad.

What an ignorant comment.

please explain, o enlightened one.

by **dawson99** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:54 pm

hes saying your comment was ignorant doof :;):

by **66-1112520797** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:45 am

andy_g wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
andy_g wrote:of course its a piece of p!ss for the (mostly) white males in this thread to express these sort of views. i can't believe anyone native to any of the more economically successful european countries can think they have it so bad.

What an ignorant comment.

please explain, o enlightened one.

Your implying that because we're "mostly" white (which is discrimnation in itself, even if your white) and part of a "successful" economy we dont really have the right to whinge if we want to about our OWN country, lets just get this straight, people in this thread "white males mostly" are not moaning about any other country or the way its being run. They're not running down a country that has feck all to do with them, but the're moaning about the country they live in. Which effects them, do they not have an equal right or something. If they were lesbians, gays, asylum seekers, women or children would it make their coments valued more ? what are you trying to say that only Somalians, Serbians, Kosovans, Israeli's and Ethiopians have that right because they're even worse off than we are ? Bollox if you believe that, like many others I sympathise for nations in turmoil. But that shouldnt stop the people of Britain if they want to have a moan about the way there own nation has become. If that is what your implying then I think your being totally ignorant with the statement. If I have got the wrong end of the stick then I apologise for that. But I suspect rather than being a lefto pinko do gooder your trying to be controversial for the sake of it with your statement. To which I find quite ironic as you dont even reside in Britain, but live in Spain. Yet you feel the urge every now and then to have a slight dig at the "ex-pats" or the average "white male" who mostly pay their way, more than you or I do towards Britains economy, and they have every f.ucking right to moan about Britain if they want to.

Remember freedom of speech and all that ? The exact same freedom of speech that allowed Abu Hamza to spout pure vitirol towards western countries. While claiming benefits and spouting that s.hit from a mosque in Finsbury park. But as soon as a discussion gathers on a forum (from "mostly white males") about what people think this country has become, its either deemed facist and racist. Or its easy to sit there and moan about the economy and the politics of the land just because your white. btw i have many black mates back in London who have also said to me over the last few years while I've been away that Britain has gone down the swan-e. But thats okay Andy for them to say it, isnt it ? Afterall they're black ?

PC can work both ways, and in this instance its again hypocritical.

F.uck it, how can we have the audacity as Liverpool supporters to grumble about our teams performances, when we dont nearly have it half as bad as Accrington Stanley, shame on us !~

by **Judge** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:55 am

zarababe wrote:
Judge wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
Judge wrote:if i were PM

cut foreign aid to invest in this country - we have 2 million of our own population on the streets (who helps them?)

Just on this point alone, an extract from DFID (Department for International Development) the gov't department that allocates our money to other countries.

Bilateral expenditure on Grants, Technical Cooperation (TC), and Other Aid in Kind increased by £97 million to £1.23 billion in 2006/07, an increase of 9%.

We gave away £1.23 BILLION !!!!

dawson the funding from cutting foreign aid alone will go into the nation mate to fund some of my policies

everyone else, i take on board your info and would implement it all

vote for me for PM

But Judge you can't have it both ways - What's it to be are ya standing for Moderator or PM

PM of course

by **andy_g** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:35 am

you missed my point mr bamaga. i can't be bothered getting into a heated argument with you because it'll only go one way but i'll try and clear up what i'm trying to say and hope it will be enough.

everyone has the right to complain about the way in which their country is being run. in fact the history of civil unrest is one of britain's finest points and one which is sadly being lost to the new generations of apathetic emos. what i'm talking about - and which has been my consistent point in this thread - is that straight away it comes down to blaming the immigrants and labelling them all as freeloaders that come to this country to steal our benefits and our jobs. it's easy to find out that the situation is far more complex than that. allied to the consensus that cutting humanitarian aid would be a good thing its plain that the most common privileged white male point of view is also a very narrow one.

there is a real lack of humanitarian consideration in this thread from people who enjoy the luxuries of living in one of the easiest societies on the planet - despite its obvious and increasing shortcomings.

i don't know your mates do i so what they say has nothing to do with this. i'm talking about this thread, so don't go bringing in spurious arguments. nor am i advocating absolute freedom of speech when it is in danger of creating misunderstanding and hatred. nor am i being controversial for the sake of it so cut the patronising krap, will you?

i'm not sure where you get the idea that every now and then i get the urge to have a pop at ex-pats or white males. as far as i'm aware this is the first time i've mentioned them. if you want to get personal with this you're wasting your time because i really couldn't give a flying fuck about you.

and yes, i live in spain and i think my life is better here. BUT, for reasons too long to explain, i still bank and pay my taxes in the UK. living in spain, of course, i get absolutely no benefit from them whatsoever. i don't get the free health care, i don't get any help if i'm having a barren period (the perils of freelancing) etc etc - all my tax money goes towards everyone else living in the UK - yes, even thos dastardly immigrants. and the best of luck to them. i pay into britain's economy and take nothing from it. meanwhile i live happily in a country where i have little rights to anything.

get your facts right next time you want to have a little pop, ok?

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