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by **dawson99** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:35 pm

i just love how we can call french arrogant, but as soona s another color comes into it everything gets heated!!!

i like french people... if they are on holiday here, or in france..

(actually just got a new romanian neighbour, and shes stunning!!!)

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:36 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

The "Yanks" helped us out, did they? Would you consider that a Market trader "helps you out" by selling you their stock? Or would you reckon that YOU helped HIM out?

Do you realise that only at the turn of this year did Britain finally manage to pay off the debt owed to the US for munitions provided from March 1941 during WWII?

There's a World of information out there

I have firsthand accounts from people who were there during the war, and the American soldiers were big on brash, and small on skill.

"As green as grass" best sums up the typical US soldier during WWII. In the beginning, they were a liability.

As the Allied forces transported munitions (under the guard of a handful of tanks) to the front line in North Africa, they encountered a German Panzer squadron. Protocol at this time (when Panzers were far superior to the tanks the allies had) was to destroy the munitions and tanks before you were within the enemy's range, and retreat. (Simply retreating would allow the Nazi's to utilize the abandoned weapons against us.)

So what did the "oh-so-great-and-noble" US soldiers do? They ran. They actually got out of their vehicles and pegged it.

Oh, and here's another little titbit for your future reference:

The USA would not have entered the War had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941. (Which had little to do with the war on Germany, which is a popular misconception. It was more to do with Japan's own expansion policy into Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies.)

So...

Did the Yanks save the World, or did they simply sell us the weapons we saved ourselves with?

We could have always done what the French did - told the Yanks to sod off. We paid back our loan, the French didn't and have no intention of doing so.

The USA entered the war against Germany because Germany declared war on the USA.

by **LFC2007** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:38 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

The "Yanks" helped us out, did they? Would you consider that a Market trader "helps you out" by selling you their stock? Or would you reckon that YOU helped HIM out?

Do you realise that only at the turn of this year did Britain finally manage to pay off the debt owed to the US for munitions provided from March 1941 during WWII?

There's a World of information out there

I have firsthand accounts from people who were there during the war, and the American soldiers were big on brash, and small on skill.

"As green as grass" best sums up the typical US soldier during WWII. In the beginning, they were a liability.

As the Allied forces transported munitions (under the guard of a handful of tanks) to the front line in North Africa, they encountered a German Panzer squadron. Protocol at this time (when Panzers were far superior to the tanks the allies had) was to destroy the munitions and tanks before you were within the enemy's range, and retreat. (Simply retreating would allow the Nazi's to utilize the abandoned weapons against us.)

So what did the "oh-so-great-and-noble" US soldiers do? They ran. They actually got out of their vehicles and pegged it.

Oh, and here's another little titbit for your future reference:

The USA would not have entered the War had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941. (Which had little to do with the war on Germany, which is a popular misconception. It was more to do with Japan's own expansion policy into Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies.)

So...

Did the Yanks save the World, or did they simply sell us the weapons we saved ourselves with?

Made these points already to lil will before he got deported :laugh:

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:38 pm

Forget the Yanks...it was the Canadians who saved the day!

by **LFC2007** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:39 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Forget the Yanks...it was the Canadians who saved the day!

by **woof woof !** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:39 pm

Naw , it was the Russians.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:39 pm

s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

The "Yanks" helped us out, did they? Would you consider that a Market trader "helps you out" by selling you their stock? Or would you reckon that YOU helped HIM out?

Do you realise that only at the turn of this year did Britain finally manage to pay off the debt owed to the US for munitions provided from March 1941 during WWII?

There's a World of information out there

I have firsthand accounts from people who were there during the war, and the American soldiers were big on brash, and small on skill.

"As green as grass" best sums up the typical US soldier during WWII. In the beginning, they were a liability.

As the Allied forces transported munitions (under the guard of a handful of tanks) to the front line in North Africa, they encountered a German Panzer squadron. Protocol at this time (when Panzers were far superior to the tanks the allies had) was to destroy the munitions and tanks before you were within the enemy's range, and retreat. (Simply retreating would allow the Nazi's to utilize the abandoned weapons against us.)

So what did the "oh-so-great-and-noble" US soldiers do? They ran. They actually got out of their vehicles and pegged it.

Oh, and here's another little titbit for your future reference:

The USA would not have entered the War had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941. (Which had little to do with the war on Germany, which is a popular misconception. It was more to do with Japan's own expansion policy into Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies.)

So...

Did the Yanks save the World, or did they simply sell us the weapons we saved ourselves with?

We could have always done what the French did - told the Yanks to sod off. We paid back our loan, the French didn't and have no intention of doing so.

Oh I know - I'm not saying our paying back of the loan is a bad thing.

I'm simply saying that The US aren't the Angels some people think.

I'm sure the £43m per annum we've thrown at them for the past 60 years softened the blow of their generosity.

by **dawson99** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:40 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Forget the Yanks...it was the Canadians who saved the day!

yeah, kept all the soldiers in pancakes and syrup :pirate

by **woof woof !** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:47 pm

Lando's right, to a degree. The american president wanted the US to enter the war . The senate and the american public however favoured of a policy of isolationalism, ie what the fk has a war in Europe got to do with us ?" . Only the Jap attack on Pearl Harbour allowed the president of the US to finally commit america and it vast resources of manpower and material to the war. To their credit, despite being attacked by Japan, the Americans always gave priority to defeating Nazi Germany over that of defeating Japan.

by **taff** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:50 pm

The loan in question was taken by the Labour Government just after the war to fund the social changes needed in Britain at the time. We were a bit skint after the war and it was ludicrous to demand reperations as these proved to be disastorous in the versailles treaty ater WW1.

We do have a lot to be frateful for to the Yanks but they were not the ones who ultimately won the war. If you had to pick any one nation it would be the Russians but at what cost.

Then you could argue about Britain supplying them and also military advice after Stalin decided to wipe out his generals.

It was more of a collective and one nation cannot say that we truly were the heroes. From a British point of view I have to respect Churchill for standing alone for a couple of years as it did look bleak at the time.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:52 pm

To be fair to the yanks they were already committed to aiding us even before the Japs attacked. They were escorting our convoys months before Pearl Harbour. Infact they escorted one of our troop convoys originally bound for Africa, all the way to Singapore, just in time to surrender with the rest of our troops.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:52 pm

s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Wilhelmsson wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Justify this view.

World War I and World War II, It was the good old yanks who helped us out.

God Bless America.

The "Yanks" helped us out, did they? Would you consider that a Market trader "helps you out" by selling you their stock? Or would you reckon that YOU helped HIM out?

Do you realise that only at the turn of this year did Britain finally manage to pay off the debt owed to the US for munitions provided from March 1941 during WWII?

There's a World of information out there

I have firsthand accounts from people who were there during the war, and the American soldiers were big on brash, and small on skill.

"As green as grass" best sums up the typical US soldier during WWII. In the beginning, they were a liability.

As the Allied forces transported munitions (under the guard of a handful of tanks) to the front line in North Africa, they encountered a German Panzer squadron. Protocol at this time (when Panzers were far superior to the tanks the allies had) was to destroy the munitions and tanks before you were within the enemy's range, and retreat. (Simply retreating would allow the Nazi's to utilize the abandoned weapons against us.)

So what did the "oh-so-great-and-noble" US soldiers do? They ran. They actually got out of their vehicles and pegged it.

Oh, and here's another little titbit for your future reference:

The USA would not have entered the War had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941. (Which had little to do with the war on Germany, which is a popular misconception. It was more to do with Japan's own expansion policy into Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies.)

So...

Did the Yanks save the World, or did they simply sell us the weapons we saved ourselves with?

We could have always done what the French did - told the Yanks to sod off. We paid back our loan, the French didn't and have no intention of doing so.

The USA entered the war against Germany because Germany declared war on the USA.

Because they had signed the Tripartite Agreement on 27 September 1940, obliging Germany to side with Imperial Japan and Fascist Italy. (Who declared War on the US earlier the same day. (11th December, 1941.))

Both World Wars were because of a series of bullsh*t treaties and agreements.

Britain's involvement in WWI was as the result of an almost forgotten agreement with Belgium signed in 1836 to preserve it's neutrality.

by **burjennio** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:57 pm

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honica is jewish mate, i think they say 'happy holiday'

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But still, I think they've generalized the phrase now so that even non-Jewish Americans say it just out of habit. Especially in big cities like New York. I think there's another saying the say other than happy holiday's. It's just so plastic anyway. When someone's a c*nt at Christmas, people always say "don't be a c*nt - it's Christmas!" Yeah, like that really makes a difference. People seem to try to be nice for one week (or 2 f*cking months as it is now) of the year, then go back to being c*nts again. Not everyone, like. Just some. I hate it.

Same as New Years. Everyone's all jolly, then BANG! next day back to square one. Nothing changes on New Years Day.

They are erecting their Christmas tree in a town called Ballymena tonight in Northern Ireland. 100% true, the world has gone mad

Won't it be a great rememberance Sunday this year with a large Christmas tree overseeing proceedings

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:57 pm

The fact that Germany declared war on the USA certainly aided Roosevelt as otherwise he would have struggled to persuade the American people that Germany was a more serious threat than Japan, and the main focus of the USA war effort may have had to be Japan first and foremost, rather than the European conflict.

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:59 pm

dawson99 wrote:i just love how we can call french arrogant, but as soona s another color comes into it everything gets heated!!!

i like french people... if they are on holiday here, or in france..

(actually just got a new romanian neighbour, and shes stunning!!!)

Does she sell The Big Issue at the end of the street ?

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