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by **account deleted by request** » Mon May 07, 2007 2:44 pm

Agger_The_Dagger wrote:I would love to know the reasons behind you wanting Cisse to return to Liverpool SuperScoucer.

Saint...........On what basis do you think Cisse is worth more than £3,500,000?? I think that would be paying over the odds for him to be totally honest!

£3,500,000 for a flop in French football seems like good money to me!

A flop in french football who has scored 12 goals in less than 6 months after coming back from an horrendous injury again. FFS you may not like him but be reasonable.

Just name a better forward than Cisse we could get for £3.5million. An established international who scores goals wherever he has been and is still in his early twenties?

He's worth more than £3.5million mate, once he proves his fitness and rattles in a few goals his price will rise again, look at that c~nt Diouf so called off abroad at the end of the season for a big fee.What did we get for him, next to nothing! Sometimes its better to hang on than just take the first offer, even when you are desperate to get shut.

by **Agger_The_Dagger** » Mon May 07, 2007 4:25 pm

As of April 30th Cisse had only managed 6 league goals for Marseille in 17 appearances.

Where did you get the figure of 12 goals from in six months?? Has he scored another 6 within the space of a week??

I also fail to see how a player who will be 26 in August can still be classed as 'in his early twenties'??

If Cisse actually had potential and was a young player then perhaps I could understand the reasoning behind giving him another chance but he just isn't worth keeping on the wage bill at £50,000 a week.

by **account deleted by request** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:27 pm

Better news! Cisse and Simao in swap deal :-

Just needs translating lol

Liverpool quer trocar Cissé por Simão

JOÃO CARDOSO

O Liverpool quer Simão Sabrosa e pretende oferecer, em troca, Djibril Cissé ao Benfica, segundo apurou o DN sport. Rafael Benítez, treinador dos reds e confesso admirador do capitão do Benfica que já tentou contratar noutras ocasiões, fez saber junto da direcção do clube inglês que pretende voltar a avançar para a aquisição do internacional português no final da temporada, até porque o holandês Zenden deve sair para o futebol italiano. Mais uma vez, contudo, e depois da transferência frustrada em 2005, o principal entrave de uma possível negociação são os valores pedidos pelo Benfica: 20 milhões de euros. O Liverpool continua a não querer pagar tanto por Simão e por isso está disposto a incluir jogadores num eventual negócio, nomeadamente Djibril Cissé, avançado francês que está actualmente emprestado ao Marselha, para assim baixar os milhões pedidos.

O Liverpool sabe que tanto Nuno Gomes, Miccoli (estes dois alvo de interesse de outros clubes) e Derlei (Benfica não deve exercer direito de opção) devem sair do Benfica, daí "oferecer" Cissé como trunfo para o negócio. Já em 2005 surgiram rumores que o francês poderia ser envolvido no negócio, mas o goleador acabou mesmo por rumar ao campeonato de França, onde esta temporada marcou apenas seis golos. Insatisfeito em Marselha, o jogador vai regressar a Liverpool no início da próxima temporada, mas Benítez não conta com ele. O internacional gaulês já foi informado e também já sabe que pode ser incluído num eventual negócio. E, apurou o DN sport junto de fonte directiva dos reds, não fecha as portas a um ingresso no Benfica. No entanto, Cissé interessa também a outros emblemas e o ordenado que tem actualmente (é o jogador mais bem pago em França, com 4,8 milhões de euros anuais, surgindo logo atrás do português do PSG Pauleta com 4,6 milhões) é incomportável para os cofres do Benfica.

Quanto a Simão, sabe o nosso jornal, não fecha as portas a uma saída, embora tenha renovado até 2012, até porque tem a palavra do presidente Luís Filipe Vieira que não lhe voltará a "cortar as pernas". Resta agora que o Liverpool pague o que o jogador pretende, algo que, por exemplo, o Valência, no início da presente temporada, não conseguiu. |

Ripped off TLW

by **Sabre** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:35 pm

That means Liverpool wants Simao, and wants to use Cisse in the deal. Trocar -> Trueque -> ExChange. The article says that apparently Rafa is a great admirer of Simao (?), and also says Zenden is off to the Italian football!

Apparently according to the article aswell, we still don't want to pay lots of money for Simao, and that's were Cisse enters que equation. And we are apparently well aware aswell (?) that Micolli, Nuno Gomes and Derlei are going to be off Benfica at the end of the season.

That's it more or less, Portuguese is likely to Spanish. The article seems to be speculating though... is it from the "A bola" newspaper? or where?

In the last bit of the article, the journo says that this time Simao has been promissed that isn't going to have his legs cut...

which simply means that this time he won't be kept under his desire in Portugal, and will be allowed to go.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:36 pm

Agger_The_Dagger wrote:As of April 30th Cisse had only managed 6 league goals for Marseille in 17 appearances.

Where did you get the figure of 12 goals from in six months?? Has he scored another 6 within the space of a week??

I also fail to see how a player who will be 26 in August can still be classed as 'in his early twenties'??

If Cisse actually had potential and was a young player then perhaps I could understand the reasoning behind giving him another chance but he just isn't worth keeping on the wage bill at £50,000 a week.

he was on the telly saturday afternoon on football focus.
during his interview he mentioned he scored 11 goals this season and then he scored another two since the interview took place.
he never said they were all league goals.
my problem with bringing cisse back to increase his value would be how long does he have left on his contract?
is next year his last one under contract with us?
if so no one is going to break the bank for a player they can sign on a free in 12 months, especially considering he is still a young man.

by **account deleted by request** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:42 pm

Link to article (cant read portugese lol )

by **account deleted by request** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:46 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
Agger_The_Dagger wrote:As of April 30th Cisse had only managed 6 league goals for Marseille in 17 appearances.

Where did you get the figure of 12 goals from in six months?? Has he scored another 6 within the space of a week??

I also fail to see how a player who will be 26 in August can still be classed as 'in his early twenties'??

If Cisse actually had potential and was a young player then perhaps I could understand the reasoning behind giving him another chance but he just isn't worth keeping on the wage bill at £50,000 a week.

he was on the telly saturday afternoon on football focus.
during his interview he mentioned he scored 11 goals this season and then he scored another two since the interview took place.
he never said they were all league goals.
my problem with bringing cisse back to increase his value would be how long does he have left on his contract?
is next year his last one under contract with us?
if so no one is going to break the bank for a player they can sign on a free in 12 months, especially considering he is still a young man.

Thanks mate, I knew I had heard it somewhere, just couldnt remember where. Presumably he has scored a few cup goals as Marseilles have reached the French final.

by **kobashi** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:02 pm

Cisse has scored 12 goals in 24 games. Considering he came back from a leg break with no pre-season that is not bad at all. why do people like too comment on french football but don't watch actually watch it. The fans are not booing him. it was just a minority when it was happening but you don't even hear them anymore. Cisse's name is getting chanted by all the OM fans and if you watched the games you would see that.

As for the OM and Cisse deal. Papa Diouf said on the website last week that it is still 50/50 as a fee has too be agreed with Liverpool and OM and Cisse need too sit down and talk about the future.

by **RUSHIE#9** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:06 pm

I think that the best way of offloading Cisse is going to be using him as a makeweight in a deal for a player that we want. That is still going to be as hard as selling him for straight cash but at the end of the day if we get a player in return as well as reducing the cost of that player then I think the club will be a bit happier to save a bit of face.

Either way £14m is a terrible piece of business and the president of Auxerre must still be laughing himself stupid over it.

Houllier :no

by **account deleted by request** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:09 pm

RUSHIE#9 wrote:I think that the best way of offloading Cisse is going to be using him as a makeweight in a deal for a player that we want. That is still going to be as hard as selling him for straight cash but at the end of the day if we get a player in return as well as reducing the cost of that player then I think the club will be a bit happier to save a bit of face.

Either way £14m is a terrible piece of business and the president of Auxerre must still be laughing himself stupid over it.

Houllier

Things could have been worse, we nearly ended up with Boumsong as well!

by **RUSHIE#9** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:56 pm

s@int wrote:
RUSHIE#9 wrote:I think that the best way of offloading Cisse is going to be using him as a makeweight in a deal for a player that we want. That is still going to be as hard as selling him for straight cash but at the end of the day if we get a player in return as well as reducing the cost of that player then I think the club will be a bit happier to save a bit of face.

Either way £14m is a terrible piece of business and the president of Auxerre must still be laughing himself stupid over it.

Houllier

Things could have been worse, we nearly ended up with Boumsong as well!

Go on S@INT really upset us and tell us that we nearly signed Titus Bramble. :oops:

by **Emerald Red** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:19 pm

s@int wrote:
RUSHIE#9 wrote:I think that the best way of offloading Cisse is going to be using him as a makeweight in a deal for a player that we want. That is still going to be as hard as selling him for straight cash but at the end of the day if we get a player in return as well as reducing the cost of that player then I think the club will be a bit happier to save a bit of face.

Either way £14m is a terrible piece of business and the president of Auxerre must still be laughing himself stupid over it.

Houllier

Things could have been worse, we nearly ended up with Boumsong as well!

That would have been a nightmare and a throwback to the mid-90's given of what I seen of him in the EPL. Awful!

by **zarababe** » Mon May 07, 2007 8:24 pm

Wasn't this guy slating the boss recentky? truth is no-one wants him and he'd rather come back and chance it at Liverpool - probably hoping to play in Athens too

by **eds** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:47 am

Cisse can be used as a picture in a dictionary for the following definition:

"Laughable"

He is such a one-dimensional player it is ridiculous how predicatable he can be, "Run fast, blast it as hard as you can!" Now that he has had 2 serious operations he isn't as lightning quick as he was before and all that is left is his other strengths...................

by **Bad Bob** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:49 am

In a related story...is it true that LiverpoolMadman has asked to come back to the forum?

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