Polonium 210 - A second case:

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Postby red37 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:52 pm

BREAKING NEWS from SKY:

Mario Scaramella Radiation Hits Second Man
Updated: 15:25, Friday December 01, 2006

An Italian academic who met a former Russian spy on the day he was allegedly poisoned has tested positive for radiation.

Mario Scaramella was found to have isotope Polonium-210 in his body.

He had lunch with ex-security agent Alexander Litvinenko, at the Itsu sushi restaurant in London's Piccadilly, shortly before he fell ill.

Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said Mr Scaramella has not shown the same symptoms as Mr Litvinenko, 43, who suffered vomiting and loss of hair.

The Health Protection Agency confirmed the Italian has a "significant quantity" isotope in his body.

Meanwhile, a post-mortem is being carried out on Mr Litvinenko's body.

He is thought to have ingested or inhaled Polonium-210 before his death on November 23.

Friends of the former spy accuse the Kremlin of being behind the poisoning - an accusation denied by Moscow.

Mr Litvinenko in hospital The post-mortem is being carried out at the Royal London Hospital with special precautions being taken because of the nature of the Russian's death.

The focus of the police inquiry is pointing firmly back at Moscow after traces of radiation were discovered on several aircraft that flew to the Russian capital.

Some of the planes have been grounded at Heathrow.

There were further dramatic twists to the saga on Thursday.

Russia's former prime minister Yegor Gaidar collapsed in Dublin on November 24, suffering from severe vomiting.

Aides said he had been poisoned though there is no official link to the Litvinenko case.

Another former KGB spy who met Mr Litvinenko on the day he was allegedly poisoned, Andrei Lugovoy, once served as Mr Gaidar's bodyguard.

There have been no arrests in the investigation so far. Mr Litvinenko's death is still being treated as suspicious.

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the stuff of espionage and intrigue that you would have expected during the 'cold' war...the indication of a second case tested positive for the isotope 210 is sad news to hear. this of course follows on from previous reports, not least the tragic demise of Mr Litvinenko....other suspicious instances:


Poisoning "not natural" 'Ex-Russian PM Poisoned'
Updated: 22:06, Thursday November 30, 2006

Doctors treating a former Russian Prime Minister for a serious illness believe he was poisoned, it has been claimed.

Yegor Gaidar is said to be stable in a Moscow hospital after becoming unwell on a trip to Ireland a week ago.

"Doctors don't see a natural reason for the poisoning," said close aide Valery Natarov.

"They have not been able to detect any natural substance known to them in Gaidar's body.

"So obviously we're talking about poisoning (and) it was not natural poisoning."

He said the ex-premier's condition could not have been the result of food poisoning.


Ann Politkovskaya: Shot dead The news follows the death in London of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko from radiation poisoning.

Sky News correspondent Alex Rossi said of the Gaidar case. "It is extremely strange, another bizarre twist to this story.

"Mr Gaidar is being kept in an undisclosed hospital and his condition is described as stable."

Mr Gaidar, who served briefly as Russian PM in the 1990s, began vomiting and fainted during a conference in Ireland last Friday.

It has been claimed there could be a link between Mr Gaidar's illness, Mr Litvinenko's death and last month's murder of investigative reporter Anna Politkovskaya.

All three have been fiercely critical of Russian president Vladimir Putin, who has denied any involvement in the Litvinenko case


and:


The two BA planes at Heathrow Spy Radiation Fears Grow
Updated: 23:19, Thursday November 30, 2006

Traces of radiation have been detected at 12 locations by experts probing the death of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko.

Home Secretary John Reid revealed 24 unnamed locations have been or are currently being monitored.

In another development, it has emerged a former Russian Prime Minister is seriouly ill in hospital - possibly the victim of poisoning.

Yegor Gaidar fell ill during a book tour of Ireland and was flown back to Russia for emergency treatment.

In the UK, one of two BA jets grounded at Heathrow after traces of a radioactive substance were found on board has been given the all clear.

The Health Protection Agency said it did not believe passengers on plane G-BZHA at Heathrow were at risk over the past month. Plane G-BNWX is still being checked.

The Civil Aviation Authority has given clearance for a third BA jet, G-BNWB, to return to London from Moscow for monitorimg.

Mr Litvinenko in hospital Mr Reid said checks had been carried out on a fourth plane which flew into Heathrow from Moscow on Thursday morning.

The Russian Boeing 737, which is leased by Transaero, was later given a clean bill of health.

Mr Reid said concerns have been raised about a fifth plane - also a Russian aircraft.

BA is contacting 33,000 passengers and 3,000 staff after "low levels of radioactive traces" were found on the two jets at Heathrow. Both had flown between London and Moscow.

Five and a half thousand passengers have called a BA helpline since the radiation alert was issued.

Mr Reid told MPs over 1,700 calls has been made to NHS direct following the scare.

Some 139 people have been referred to the Health Protection Agency as a precaution.

Of the 29 tested, none had worrying results. Twenty-four have been referred to specialist clinics.

Russian leader Vladimir Putin A further 53 heathcare staff and 140 staff and visitors to various locations under investigation have been asked to provide urine specimens.

Mr Litvinenko - a fierce critic of Russian president Vladimir Putin - died last week of radiation poisoning after being exposed to polonium 210.

An inquest has been opened at St Pancras Coroner's Court, London. It was adjourned so police can continue their investigation.

The Kremlin has denied any responsibility for Mr Litvinenko's death, describing it as a "tragedy".

So far inquiries have centred on the ex-KGB officer's movements, including his meetings at a West End sushi restaurant and a hotel on 1 November, the day he fell ill.

It has been suggested polonium 210 could be present in other locations including the planes because it leaked from a container or was present in people's bodily fluids.

The BA phone number for passengers is 0845 604 0171, and an international helpline can be reached on 0191 211 3690.

Alternatively, visit the British Airways website.


POLONIUM 210

 
Causes massive tissue damage Polonium 210: The Facts


The former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko appears to have been poisoned by Polonium 210, a radioactive substance.

Polonium 210 occurs naturally and is present in some foods and naturally in our bodies at very low doses.

It can also be manufactured by bombarding certain substances with neutrons.

And it has industrial uses - such as an anti-static device in the photographic industry.

But polonium 210 is highly radioactive and toxic and is dangerous to handle, requiring special equipment and procedures.

Direct damage occurs from energy absorption into tissues.

If it is ingested - by eating it or via a wound - it will rapidly track through the body and will cause major tissue damage.

And it is easily soluble in dilute acids, such as wine.

It has a half-life of 139 days - that it is the length of time a sample takes to lose half its radioactivity.

A great deal of energy is released by its decay with a half a gram quickly reaching a temperature above 500 degrees centigrade.

WIKIPEDIA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonium

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frighening, nasty stuff of nightmares...but is this only the tip of the iceberg of whats to come.....

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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:02 pm

red37 wrote:frighening, nasty stuff of nightmares...but is this only the tip of the iceberg of whats to come.....

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Well , the sushi's fu'cked for starters .   :angry:

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Postby red37 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:12 pm

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Postby The Ace1983 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:17 pm

Nice to know that the KGB is back in fll swing. You can give them a different name, but we all know the score.
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Postby red37 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:44 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:Nice to know that the KGB is back in fll swing. You can give them a different name, but we all know the score.

seems thats all too true Ace:


'I Survived Poison Coffee'

Friday December 01, 2006



The case of poisoned Russian spy Nikolai Khokhlov may date back to 1957 but it carries uncanny echoes of the recent death of Alexander Litvinenko.

Both men were former KGB agents who had become disillusioned with their masters and had published books condemning the regimes.

Both appear to have been attacked in the same way: radioactive material slipped into their food or drink.

For Mr Litvinenko it is thought to have been a dose of radioactive polonium 210; for Dr Khokhlov it was thallium in a cup of coffee.

The Times carries the story from the frozen wastes of the Cold War and reports one big difference between the two cases: Dr Khokhlov survived.

In an exclusive interview, Dr Khokhlov, now 84 and living in San Bernardino, California, tells the paper he is convinced the attempt to poison him half a century ago was driven by a belief that defection and dissent should not go unpunished.

Dr Khokhlov defected to the West after being sent to Germany in 1954 but refusing to arrange the assassination of an anti-communist Russian émigré.

"The KGB decided to kill me," he says. "The message was, 'We will get the traitor, wherever he is the world'."

In September 1957, Dr Khokhlov was given some coffee at a conference of anti-Soviet activists in Frankfurt.

He began to feel ill and the gastric poisoning was eventually attributed to radioactive thallium.

Ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko Doctors at an American military hospital saved his life with blood transfusions and injections of steroids, cortisone and vitamins.

Dr Khokhlov believes something similar may have befallen Mr Litvinenko.

"The situation within Russia today is very perilous. There are no more laws, and no more order. Litvinenko threatened some disclosures, but his executioners did not know if he really had the information."

The Times says he stops short of accusing President Putin, a former KGB officer, of direct involvement in the assassination.

But he points out: "Putin brought back many KGB, and there are too many KGB at the top, the old dinosaurs who cannot get rid of old habits."

Dr Khokhlov went on to take a degree in clinical and experimental psychology and began a new life as a professor at the University of California.

In 1992 he was granted a full pardon by Boris Yeltsin, the then Russian President.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:28 am

Manhattan is the radioactive poisoner.

I did it.
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Postby jkop » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:48 am

The Manhattan Project wrote:Manhattan is the radioactive poisoner.

I did it.

You Madman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wwww
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:22 am

Do farts count, Manhattan? :p :D
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Postby 66-1120597113 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:27 am

Mine could killl a country if the room is not vacated...Polonium ar.se me!! :veryangry    and ears
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:17 am

People got suspicious when the sushi started glowing green.
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Postby coddy » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:02 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:People got suspicious when the sushi started glowing green.

Im sure the last time i had sushi it was glowing anyway!!!!


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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:46 am

I feed my pet fish on Polonium flakes and I can categorically state that it doesn't make them glow in the dark  :(  .

It does however accelerate their growth , I've had to buy a new aquarium , cost me a fortune . :(


















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Postby Big Niall » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:08 am

Wasn't a British spy caught in Russia about a year or so ago. Allies my ****, all the powers of the world spy on each other. Plus I trust nothing in the news - it could be a set up for all we know (not saying it is, but just that it might be)

"intelligence" - as they call it, is a dirty game all right.
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Postby Sabre » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:08 am

This issue has cause quite a big media impact here.

For me it's difficult to understand why they want to kill somebody in such a strange and sophisticated way. It just points out that there's something dirty on this matter! and they wanted to hide that.
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:00 pm

surely a mugging gone bad, or hit and run would be easier ways and less obvious.
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