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by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:35 pm

Pedro O'Maradona wrote:and OOTERS are people too you know.......lol (bet youre a woolie tho la!) lol

Dont get yer Y-fronts in a twist la! :;):

by **mikopool** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:36 pm

For anyone who watched the match, how did El Zhar look?

by **Aaron** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:40 pm

I think we lack in quality English players. Truthfully, Gerrard, Carra and Crouch are the only quality english players we have. Pennant, Bellamy, Finnan and Fowler are all British and Irish but are either past it or not good enough. When we had Owen, at least the spine of our team was English, they knew wot the Premiership is all about. All foreigners in are squad dont realise as much as the three english players named above how physical the prem is. Bar Sissoko, Alonso, Kuyt and Riise, i dont think any other player should really be playing for the club. Thats just my honest opinion. For me most of the spaniards arnt up to it!! Simple as!! I really think Rafa needs to look at more quality British players and splash out on them rather than splash out on foreigners

by **Pedro O'Maradona** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:42 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Pedro O'Maradona wrote:and OOTERS are people too you know.......lol (bet youre a woolie tho la!) lol

Dont get yer Y-fronts in a twist la!

ere tatty head awrite awrite calm down calm down!! lol

by **Ciggy** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:44 pm

mikopool wrote:For anyone who watched the match, how did El Zhar look?

Like a Tunisian.
Nar he wasnt on that long to make an impression probably sh.it himself playing tonight cause he played lastnight and only got a shirt number before the game.
Him and Guthrie tried to liven things up but it wasnt to be our build up play is so friggen slow, and predictable its a joke.
I predict the season 2007 new LB, Carra on the bench, Hyypia gone and a new pacy RB.
And we will all be up in arms again with getting beat while the new back 4 settles in.

by **Effes** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:45 pm

mikopool wrote:For anyone who watched the match, how did El Zhar look?

Hard to judge on first game as sub, but at times he looked out of place.

Pennant lost it in the second half, I think the crowd got on his back a bit too much.
It seemed to affect him.

Too much sideway-passing back to defence.

We hardly created a decent chance in the second half.

Not good enough.

by **67-1161385641** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:52 pm

DCFC wrote:I think we lack in quality English players. Truthfully, Gerrard, Carra and Crouch are the only quality english players we have. Pennant, Bellamy, Finnan and Fowler are all British and Irish but are either past it or not good enough. When we had Owen, at least the spine of our team was English, they knew wot the Premiership is all about. All foreigners in are squad dont realise as much as the three english players named above how physical the prem is. Bar Sissoko, Alonso, Kuyt and Riise, i dont think any other player should really be playing for the club. Thats just my honest opinion. For me most of the spaniards arnt up to it!! Simple as!! I really think Rafa needs to look at more quality British players and splash out on them rather than splash out on foreigners

I don't usually be rude to people, but what the :censored:

are you on about? What does a player’s nationality have to do with anything; surely it’s what they do on the pitch that matters? Firstly Finnan is Irish, therefore he is not British and he’s not English. He is also along with Neville one of the best right backs in the league. Bellamy is Welsh, not English, he is new, suffering a lack of confidence, he needs more time, same with Pennant. How can you say Fowler isn’t good enough, he hasn’t put a foot wrong since he came back earlier this year. He hardly ever plays and if you watched the Man City match you’ll realise what he brings to the team. Are you some sort of fascist? I suggest you look at our history because most of our great teams were made up of Scottish, Irish, Welsh and English player and are you seriously telling me players like John Barnes didn’t know what playing for Liverpool was about? You’re talking absolute nonsense.

I forgot Agger’s dire and Alonso hasn’t got any quality. You’ve completely overreacted to a draw here; I’d go as far as saying you’re not a Liverpool supporter. Constructive criticism is welcomed, utter :censored:

like this is not, I usually accept a difference of opinion, but not when they are complete :censored:

like this, and do you even believe what you’re typing?

If you can’t stick by Liverpool through the bad times, go and support another club.

by **Effes** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:53 pm

Garcia had a woeful game

by **67-1161385641** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:54 pm

Effes wrote:Pennant lost it in the second half, I think the crowd got on his back a bit too much.
It seemed to affect him.

Our support is starting to become a joke, best fans in the world we most certainly aren't.

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:58 pm

CharmlessMan wrote:
Effes wrote:Pennant lost it in the second half, I think the crowd got on his back a bit too much.
It seemed to affect him.

Our support is starting to become a joke, best fans in the world we most certainly aren't.

on our day we can be, but those days are getting fewer and fewer, where turning into another run of the mill sing when your winning outfit, very sad indeed

by **Ciggy** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:02 am

CharmlessMan wrote:
Effes wrote:Pennant lost it in the second half, I think the crowd got on his back a bit too much.
It seemed to affect him.

Our support is starting to become a joke, best fans in the world we most certainly aren't.

CM Ive got to agree with the above Pennant was f.ucking sh.ite, we can support players but when they havent done anything since arriving then its time we stopped defending them, he was woeful so was Garcia.
But we know what Garcia is capable of but up till now Pennants done nothing.
Rafa was feckin fuming at him when he brought him off before he nearly got sent off 3 times. :no

by **dawson99** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:05 am

so come on everyoone, whats the deal?

motivation problems?
lack of quality?
lack of passion?
Captain not doing his job?
manager not doing his job?
fans not doing there job?

all of the above?

by **Ciggy** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:08 am

dawson99 wrote:so come on everyoone, whats the deal?

motivation problems?
lack of quality?

That was the deal Daws.

by **67-1161385641** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:12 am

Ciggy wrote:
CharmlessMan wrote:
Effes wrote:Pennant lost it in the second half, I think the crowd got on his back a bit too much.
It seemed to affect him.

Our support is starting to become a joke, best fans in the world we most certainly aren't.

CM Ive got to agree with the above Pennant was f.ucking sh.ite, we can support players but when they havent done anything since arriving then its time we stopped defending them, he was woeful so was Garcia.
But we know what Garcia is capable of but up till now Pennants done nothing.
Rafa was feckin fuming at him when he brought him off before he nearly got sent off 3 times.

I know Pennant's been frustrating this season, but we should be supporting our players through the good times and bad times, through the peaks and dips in form.

by **adamnbarrett** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:12 am

Before I start:

THIS IS NOT A KNEEJERK REACTION

what a bunch of :censored:

we were tonight. Got back from the match about 1/2 an hour ago. It sead it al when the bloke who sits next to me leaves with 10 minutes left, it was that poor. For those who didn't watch the game, you don't have a :censored:

clue how badly we actually played. It was actually the worst perofrmance I've seen at anfield in a long time.

Again the atmosphere was poor which didn't help and also may I like to add it's sad when you can count the amount of scarves up in the kop during YNWA on about 3 hands.

Carra was uncomfortable in midfield and often was so deep he was a 3rd centre back. Gerrard was also too deep for my liking. Pennant was a pile of :censored:

, I have been one of those who has said give him time etc but tonight just took the :censored:

biscuit. He beat a man, had an opportunity to get a cross in, but decided to try and beat the man again! He gave the ball away far too much. His frustration got the better of him and it was lucky Rafa subbed him because otherwise I think we'd of found ourselves down to 10. Luis Garcia was :censored:

, gave the ball away and the usual malarky that goes with it. We need to teach our wingers how to cross aswell FFS.

Next on the agenda.....

SHORT CORNERS - These :censored:

me off big time. Sammi and Agger run 70 odd yards up the pitch for :censored:

all. Too many times did I see short corners and then the ball being given away and the chance wasted which means that Sammi and Agger have to sprint back again. It causes unnecessary pressure on us.

There is no urgency about this team either. There is not long to go and we are passing the ball along the back 4 like we are 3-0 up. It's not good enough.

This was our BIG chance tonight to go 3rd and we blew it big time. I think alot of that team shouldn't get their wages his week. No wonder Rafa was scratching his head, he had to make subs and stuff but he honetly could have subbed 1 of about 5.

I'm not angry, just very very disappointed :down:

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