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by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:36 am

I'd guess Juve have enough in their coffers to sustain their current team for one season in Seria B.

I'd be f*cking SHOCKED if they haven't.

They'll let the old-boys go, and the underachieving punks like Camoranesi (sp?), but I'd think most will stay, or go on loan until the Old Lady get's her Zimmer out again.

by **Espionage** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:38 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Espionage wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:If really Rafa Manage to sign DT ... I think we all can say "good bye" to Peter Clown ...

Yeah, and Cisse was. You prove time and time again that you know nothing. I struggle to contain myself whenever you post. It seems like you stir people up on purpose on your way to sidetracking every thread that you post in......

Some ppl like him and some ppl dont .... Just wait and see this coming season or next season ...

I dont care what your opinion is, just dont state it in every thread, everyone already knows what you think of Crouch and what you thourght of Cisse.
It would be funny to count the number of threads that you side-tracked with your openly provocative posts. I took the bait once, now I just try to say something and warn people before someone else actually takes you seriously and tries to have a logical debate with you. :help

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:46 am

Espionage wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Espionage wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:If really Rafa Manage to sign DT ... I think we all can say "good bye" to Peter Clown ...

Yeah, and Cisse was. You prove time and time again that you know nothing. I struggle to contain myself whenever you post. It seems like you stir people up on purpose on your way to sidetracking every thread that you post in......

Some ppl like him and some ppl dont .... Just wait and see this coming season or next season ...

I dont care what your opinion is, just dont state it in every thread, everyone already knows what you think of Crouch and what you thourght of Cisse.
It would be funny to count the number of threads that you side-tracked with your openly provocative posts. I took the bait once, now I just try to say something and warn people before someone else actually takes you seriously and tries to have a logical debate with you.

I'll take up that challenge, Espionage!!!!!

LiverpoolMadman:

Cisse is sh*t.

by **Effes** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:47 am

Apparently Thuram is leading the exodus of stars leaving Juve - BBC.co.uk
They'll all be jumping ship soon. Thuram is quality, but not long left in him as he's 34.

by **account deleted by request** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:07 am

Effes wrote:Apparently Thuram is leading the exodus of stars leaving Juve - BBC.co.uk
They'll all be jumping ship soon. Thuram is quality, but not long left in him as he's 34.

I was surprised at just how many Juventus and Milan players are reaching the veteran stage. Makes you wonder if there are a few diamonds languishing in their reserves that we could sign.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:46 am

anti-hero wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Espionage wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:If really Rafa Manage to sign DT ... I think we all can say "good bye" to Peter Clown ...

Yeah, and Cisse was. You prove time and time again that you know nothing. I struggle to contain myself whenever you post. It seems like you stir people up on purpose on your way to sidetracking every thread that you post in......

Some ppl like him and some ppl dont .... Just wait and see this coming season or next season ...

Dude.. I was one of the "pro Cisse" people too but even I, have come to terms with the fact that he shall play nothing more than a small part, if any, with the Liverpool squad in the future.

Unless he scores 20 or more goals and sets Ligue 1 on fire next season, Cisse is as good as gone from Liverpool.

Try to live with that fact yeah?

Cisse, he's gone to other club already ... I talking abt PC ... the only reason why Rafa buys him is because other strikers are expensive during that time ... Just like I say ... let see a season or two if PC still can't score 15 goals ... I'm very sure that he will be the next one to go ...

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:51 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Espionage wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Espionage wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:If really Rafa Manage to sign DT ... I think we all can say "good bye" to Peter Clown ...

Yeah, and Cisse was. You prove time and time again that you know nothing. I struggle to contain myself whenever you post. It seems like you stir people up on purpose on your way to sidetracking every thread that you post in......

Some ppl like him and some ppl dont .... Just wait and see this coming season or next season ...

I dont care what your opinion is, just dont state it in every thread, everyone already knows what you think of Crouch and what you thourght of Cisse.
It would be funny to count the number of threads that you side-tracked with your openly provocative posts. I took the bait once, now I just try to say something and warn people before someone else actually takes you seriously and tries to have a logical debate with you.

I'll take up that challenge, Espionage!!!!!

LiverpoolMadman:

Cisse is sh*t.

or NOT ... he's gone now ...If Rafa manage to sign or loan other striker now maybe DT or Anelka ... then Liverpool strike force will be ( in order ) Bellamy, Fowler , DT/ others and the last one is PC

by **Anfield rapper** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:07 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:I'd guess Juve have enough in their coffers to sustain their current team for one season in Seria B.

I'd be f*cking SHOCKED if they haven't.

They'll let the old-boys go, and the underachieving punks like Camoranesi (sp?), but I'd think most will stay, or go on loan until the Old Lady get's her Zimmer out again.

Correct me if i'm wrong but don't Juve also start the season on -30 points. If thats the case i can see them having at least 2 seasons in Seria B. I would have thought that this relegation has triggered clauses in all of their players contracts, so they will do very well to hold on to anyone.

by **Judge** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:22 am

Anfield rapper wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:I'd guess Juve have enough in their coffers to sustain their current team for one season in Seria B.

I'd be f*cking SHOCKED if they haven't.

They'll let the old-boys go, and the underachieving punks like Camoranesi (sp?), but I'd think most will stay, or go on loan until the Old Lady get's her Zimmer out again.

Correct me if i'm wrong but don't Juve also start the season on -30 points. If thats the case i can see them having at least 2 seasons in Seria B. I would have thought that this relegation has triggered santa clauses in all of their players contracts, so they will do very well to hold on to anyone.

quite possibly

by **Ace Ventura** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:51 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Loan - yes.

Transfer - no.

We NEED to check his ability to perform in the Premiership before committing to buy.

Good striker, but never has or will be top-drawer.
He scores a lot of goals, but from what I can tell, that's ALL he contributes.

To be honest Lando I doubt that they will loan him out, as he would be 31 by the time they get him back(2 years). More likely a cut price deal of £7-8million would be good, especially when Chelsea offered over £24million for him last year. A price of £8million would still allow us to get Alves imo.

I really do have a feeling he'll fall on his ar*e over here, though.

And on the subject of Juve - I think they'll come back up within a year. 30 points SOUNDS a lot, but can anyone honestly rule out the possibility of them winning every game? Don't forget that the top teams in Seria B have been promoted to allow Juve, etc to be relegated.

And AC Milan will STILL win Seria A now their main rivials have said their tata to the league.

15 points is nothing - 5 wins more than their closest rival, presumably Roma.

Hardly a massive mountain.

Lando the tope sides from serie B have not been promoted the teams that were supposed to be relegated have been spared. Serie B is still not going to be easy for Juve though, your forgetting that Lazio and Fiorentina are also there (and with less of a points deduction)
I cant see them going back up first season, most of the better players in there squad are getting on and imo wont fancy spending a season without topflight football and champions league football.
I can see why people have misgivings about Trezeguet because every time i have watched him he has not got involved in the game much, but he is just a goalscorer that would probably score goals in any league.
A loan deal would be ideal, if he doesnt do the business then we are not counting our losses.
Also another big reason to sign a top drawer striker is the competition for places and to keep players on top of there game, if we start the season with just the 3 of them and one is injured the other two know they are almost guaranteed a start, thats not good we want players that know there will be someone taking there place if they are not performing.

by **tubby** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:13 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Loan - yes.

Transfer - no.

We NEED to check his ability to perform in the Premiership before committing to buy.

Good striker, but never has or will be top-drawer.
He scores a lot of goals, but from what I can tell, that's ALL he contributes.

To be honest Lando I doubt that they will loan him out, as he would be 31 by the time they get him back(2 years). More likely a cut price deal of £7-8million would be good, especially when Chelsea offered over £24million for him last year. A price of £8million would still allow us to get Alves imo.

I really do have a feeling he'll fall on his ar*e over here, though.

And on the subject of Juve - I think they'll come back up within a year. 30 points SOUNDS a lot, but can anyone honestly rule out the possibility of them winning every game? Don't forget that the top teams in Seria B have been promoted to allow Juve, etc to be relegated.

And AC Milan will STILL win Seria A now their main rivials have said their tata to the league.

15 points is nothing - 5 wins more than their closest rival, presumably Roma.

Hardly a massive mountain.

Sure i see what you mean but 15 pioints over a season is one thing. But to start 15 points down makes it so much more psychologically harder. They will go into every game with so much preassure for 3 points.

Inter fans must be so happy.

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:04 pm

Definitely a good piece of business if we could get him on loan but otherwise, I'd steer clear. He's got ability but I doubt he's a long term solution up front.

by **wee_boi888** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:08 pm

If Inter doesn't win with those three relagated and Milan -15 points, Moratti should headbutt Mancini.

Knowing Inter, they'd prob screw up anyway...should put in a small bet for Roma for the Serie A

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:06 am

I guess we'll just have to wait and see regarding Juve and AC Milan.

I wouldn't bet against either winning their respective titles, though.

by **tubby** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:42 am

Bad Bob wrote:Definitely a good piece of business if we could get him on loan but otherwise, I'd steer clear. He's got ability but I doubt he's a long term solution up front.

If we did take him on loan wouldnt we have to pay pretty much all of his wages. I dont know how much he was on at Juve but could he demand similar wages elsewhere?

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