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by **NiftyNeil** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:43 pm

Don't forget, Rick Parry got us Rafa.

by **red_indian** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:43 pm

i would like the company to make some kind of statement on this whole saga though. the bottom line is we have been waiting for some time now for a RM and a CB to arrive with various rumours, missed targets etc.

either as Chief Exec there is something wrong with our negotiating tactics or we really don't have the cash - either way i think the Chief Exec needs to communicate better with fans and let Rafa get on with managing the team

by **NiftyNeil** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:47 pm

If it wasn't for Rick Parry, we'd still be playing preseason friendlies against Norwegian teams and Northern Irish teams. Instead, we are playing in moneyspinning games in places like Singapore and USA. That is what a Chief Excec is for - wheeling and dealing. He also landed us lucrative deals with Granada, and other companies.
It is not just about transfers.

by **Paul C** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:52 pm

NiftyNeil wrote:If it wasn't for Rick Parry, we'd still be playing preseason friendlies against Norwegian teams and Northern Irish teams. Instead, we are playing in moneyspinning games in places like Singapore and USA. That is what a Chief Excec is for - wheeling and dealing. He also landed us lucrative deals with Granada, and other companies.
It is not just about transfers.

I'll rephrase then, I think he's too soft in the transfer market

by **Ace Ventura** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:58 pm

Parry has done the right thing....we cannot afford to be paying 17 million for a player. No matter who they are.
Most of us wanted Michael back, he would definately been a success, but if we are honest it seems all Michael REALLY cares about is ENGLAND, not LFC.
Cant see that Parrys to blame at all, and i also dont think it is right that we know everything..if we know the whole of trhe clubs business/plans...then so do rival clubs which could lead to us being held to ransom over potential transfers.

by **Bermenstein** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:59 pm

Paul C wrote:
NiftyNeil wrote:If it wasn't for Rick Parry, we'd still be playing preseason friendlies against Norwegian teams and Northern Irish teams. Instead, we are playing in moneyspinning games in places like Singapore and USA. That is what a Chief Excec is for - wheeling and dealing. He also landed us lucrative deals with Granada, and other companies.
It is not just about transfers.

I'll rephrase then, I think he's too soft in the transfer market

Houllier raided the pockets of Lpool and got little quality.
Got to be careful.
And when Lpool inquire about players, the Prices do take a quantum leap.

Don't think he's soft. More shrewd this time round. Don't buy just for the sake of buying.

Look at all our players out on loan. With the exception of Kirkland, we will get nothing back for Cheyrou, Diao, Le Tallec.

by **red or dead** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:18 pm

I FEEL WE ARE A BIT SOFT IN THE TRANSFER MARKET BUT WHEN YOU HAVE GREEDY BAST@@D AGENTS IT IS VERY HARD ASK YOURSELF HOW MUCH WOULD SFX OR WHATEVER THEY ARE CALLED GET FOR OWEN COMING TO LPOOL COMPERED TO NEWCASTLE WHAT WAS OUR OFFER 8M TO THERE 17M YOU DO THE MATHS :angry:

by **NiftyNeil** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:20 pm

One criticism I have got though, is that we should of got more for the Diara deal. He is now playing for the national side. £2 million was too cheap (we paid £5million for Sissoko)

by **andy_g** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:24 pm

yeah, parry is way too soft. he should have had benitez and owen in a headlock and banged their heads together until a deal was agreed. then he should have gone and wrestled perez to the ground until he accepted 8 million.

then he should have had the liverbird tattooed on his bell-end to prove his toughness and loyalty to the club.

but seriously, the guy (along with the manager) has just saved us from spending millions on a player with dodgy motives. i call that tough - not giving in to demands. at the end of the day, the chairman does not have the final say about a player signing or not - that decision resides with the player and his agents. if they say no, then no amount of breastbeating by the chairman is going to change a thing.

parry is doing a good job. and i'd rather have a dignified, honest and supportive chairman than someone out to make a name and a buck.

by **NiftyNeil** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:31 pm

andy_g wrote:yeah, parry is way too soft. he should have had parry and owen in a headlock and banged their heads together until a deal was agreed. then he should have gone and wrestled perez to the ground until he accepted 8 million.

then he should have had the liverbird tattooed on his bell-end to prove his toughness and loyalty to the club.

but seriously, the guy (along with the manager) has just saved us from spending millions on a player with dodgy motives. i call that tough - not giving in to demands. at the end of the day, the chairman does not have the final say about a player signing or not - that decision resides with the player and his agents. if they say no, then no amount of breastbeating by the chairman is going to change a thing.

parry is doing a good job. and i'd rather have a dignified, honest and supportive chairman than someone out to make a name and a buck.

Well said.
I think the club on the whole have showed true strength over the summer. The MO saga being the latest.
It was also Rick Parry's late night phone calls that persuaded Gerrard to stay.

by **Scottbot** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:55 pm

Sure, Parry has his faults but it's harsh to point any real finger of blame his way on the Owen transfer. Does anyone really believe that Benitez wanted the lad back here? Sure, the boss would have been happy with an 8-10 million pound deal but it was never going to happen from the moment Newcastle came in with that crazy bid. I would have been :censored:

if we had paid the £17 million they have forked out.

by **parchpea** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:38 pm

Ive been critical of Parry in the past but hes got this very right. We sold a player to Madrid for £8 million and he played a bit part for them during a year at their club. They are now looking to get him off the books and want us to pay £16million for the same footballer they would only pay half that for. Parry is not perfect, but for us to shell out that would have been ludicrous. The rose tintent glasses and sentiment had to go in this case, we may have wanted him back, but only for what we sold him for. That would have been fair and reasonable. Madrid where playing it tough as they always do and unfortunately its harmed Owens intentions. He left to win trophies and finds himself in Newcastle, a club without silverware for 50 years. Its not for Parry or Liverpool FC to bail him out of a :censored:

situation that he himself manufactured a year ago. Remember, Parry offered Owen a record contract 12 months back which he would not sign. Owen has learned the hard way and its not the fault of Rick Parry or anyone else at Liverpool Football Club for that matter.

by **7_Kewell** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:43 pm

it would have been very wrong to sell Cisse (a player who is determined to give 110%) and bring in Owen...especially for 17 million! :oops:

by **Ace Ventura** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:21 pm

parchpea wrote:Ive been critical of Parry in the past but hes got this very right. We sold a player to Madrid for £8 million and he played a bit part for them during a year at their club. They are now looking to get him off the books and want us to pay £16million for the same footballer they would only pay half that for. Parry is not perfect, but for us to shell out that would have been ludicrous. The rose tintent glasses and sentiment had to go in this case, we may have wanted him back, but only for what we sold him for. That would have been fair and reasonable. Madrid where playing it tough as they always do and unfortunately its harmed Owens intentions. He left to win trophies and finds himself in Newcastle, a club without silverware for 50 years. Its not for Parry or Liverpool FC to bail him out of a situation that he himself manufactured a year ago. Remember, Parry offered Owen a record contract 12 months back which he would not sign. Owen has learned the hard way and its not the fault of Rick Parry or anyone else at Liverpool Football Club for that matter.

Great post, totally agree.
Would of loved Owen back at Liverpool, but the reasons you stated are totally right.

by **Luis Garcia** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:07 pm

Paul C wrote:I just want to know peoples opinion on Rick Parry, personally I think his style is too laid back and he expects everyone to just come to Anfield, this isn't a knock on effect after the Owen deal falling through but it shows how when we want someone we p155 about too much, if LFC wanted him they should have put the effort in like what Freddie Shepard did.

I think Parry is too soft and to take the club forward we need someone more cut throat

Are you suggesting Parry should FORCE Rafa to buy Michael Owen? And do his job for him.

Rafa dictates the players he wants, and parry is the deal maker. thats how it works.

This is what you are getting at, isnt it?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I heard Rafa walked from valencia cause the board were interfering with transfers.

You want the same thing to happen here boyo?

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