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by **A.B.** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:40 am

I can't be assed wasting my words on you., Baros is a proven international goalscorer. Euro 2004, tops scorer.
He beat all the best strikers from Holland, germany, england, France, Spain Etc etc to win the top scorer

His international record is irrevelant when it comes to European competitions[CL in where he scored only 2 goals] and the EPL. I don't care how many goals he's scored for his country because he's not doing the job at this club. He's playing well in pre-season but we needed him to play well in major games last season, he didn't deliever that. That's a problem.

ok, ill watch every LFC game this season you nugget, and every chance crouch misses that was easy, Ill send you a private message to point out the fact!

Don't bother sending me messages you will be blocked shortly, I don't have the time to waste on reading your posts. So get to your point quickly.

Crouch has only jut arrived on the Scene and is not PROVEn!

He proved himself in the Premiership last season, at a lower club. 16 goals in 32 games

He isn't proven at this club because he's only arrived but neither is Baros. Whilst Baros may have an impressive record for his country he certainly hasn't brought that to this club.

Going back to what you said in the first place and that was that Crouch is a slouch. You can't expect a 6'7 striker to be bursting with speed. Strikers do not need to have extreme pace to score goals in the Premiership. Crouch proved that by scoring 12 last season in the Premiership.

Crouch had a good game and you don't have the stomach to admit it.

by **65-1114725958** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:49 am

you just wont let me have the last word will you?

you knwo you dont have an argument, so let it be.

by **A.B.** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:54 am

you just wont let me have the last word will you?

you knwo you dont have an argument, so let it be.

What is your arguement exactly? That Crouch is going to be a flop because he doesn't have the pace and therefore he won't be successful in the Premiership yet he scores 12 goals with Soton last season.

In his first pre-season game with a new team he sets up a goal. Not exactly a poor start? If there's anybody with a poor arguement and logic it's you.

You rant on about how good Baros is internationally, yet he can't score the goals for the club. He won the golden boot, good on him. But so did Davor Suker in the 98 World Cup, that didn't make him better overall than some of them world class strikers at that timethough. Baros may be "class" for his country but the word class and Baros shouldn't be in the same sentence when it comes to this club.

He's had his chance and he didn't take it. Rafa seems keen on selling him and I don't blame him.

by **66-1120597113** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:56 am

He's a gonner! Bye baros,like a mouse when a cats on its tail?Or worse?He did not produce the goods alll season!Who are u people?Did u watch all our games?Or only the games baros played well in?Namely 2??

by **Igor Zidane** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:56 am

children children its a bit late now you should be both tucked up in bed and let it lie .Imho baros done well tonight a nd so did crouch,but it looks like baros is going and crouch has just arrived,just get on with it now and look forward to a new season.

by **66-1120597113** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:01 am

I will not be part of a hail BAROS Comitee! Never a Liverpool player,get him out!

by **109-1093441336** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:42 am

A.B. wrote:
Baros is the best all round player we have right now, by a long shot. he's played very well in freindlies to warrant a stay.

Look at the chance he had against Juventus in the second leg,

He made the chance for himself, nutmeggin the defender, crouch couldn't of done that, stupid :censored:

by **109-1093441336** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:46 am

A.B. wrote:

You rant on about how good Baros is internationally, yet he can't score at my mums brothel , He won the golden shower with my mum, good on him. But so did Davor Suker in the 98 Cup, that didn't make him better overall than some of them world class at that time though. Baros may have done my mum but the word and AB should be in the same sentence when it comes to this hole.

She's had her chance and she didn't take it. Rafa seems keen on selling my mum for £15, and I don't blame him.

riiight

by **A.B.** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:01 am

He made the chance for himself, nutmeggin the defender, crouch couldn't of done that, stupid

That's all good and well but you don't score goals by nutmeggin the defender, you score goals by putting the ball into the back of the net. Baros didn't do enough of that for us last season, whether you like it or not that's a fact.

The fact that he was on the bench in the first stage of the CL qualifiers proves that Benitez will sell him to who ever comes up with the good offer. Not to mention that he could sit on his contract and leave on a bosman. Unless Benitez offers him a new contract and he signs then having him here wouldn't hurt however he has a better chance of winning the lottery than getting a new contract.

If Deportivo make a good offer then he will be sold and we'll see cash flowing in and a new quality defender comming.

2004/2005
Baros:
13 goals in 44 games

Crouch:
16/17 goals in 32 games

Quote (A.B. @ July 24 2005,01:54)

You rant on about how good Baros is internationally, yet he can't score at my mums brothel , He won the golden shower with my mum, good on him. But so did Davor Suker in the 98 Cup, that didn't make him better overall than some of them world class at that time though. Baros may have done my mum but the word and AB should be in the same sentence when it comes to this hole.

She's had her chance and she didn't take it. Rafa seems keen on selling my mum for £15, and I don't blame him.

riiight

P1ss off, editing quotes doesn't amuse me, go play with your toys. :talktothehand

by **red_guy** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:07 am

He's (Baros) a team player against Olympiakos. If he shows this kind of form last season, no doubt he's going nowhere. But for now, i dunno. It's up to rafa. If we're gonna sell him, then bring OWEN back!

by **A.B.** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:12 am

He's (Baros) a team player against Olympiakos

A team player in one game out of how many he's played in the past three or four years?

How many times did he run with his head down and went into the corner last season? When instead he could had passed the ball to a team-mate in a better position than he was.

Last season couldn't show awarness,good link up play nor was he lethal as he should had been as far as scoring goals is concerned. He's had his chance as he's been our main striker for most of the season due to injuries and when the time came for him to get the job done he couldn't do it.

Last summer he commented about wanting to play for Barcelona and how a player can't stay at one club for too long. Does that sound like a player who is going to be commited to Liverpool Football Club? I don't think so.

One of important factors that Benitez looks in a player is the "right mentality". I don't think Baros has that and it seems that Benitez doesn't think so either.

by **109-1093441336** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:21 am

A.B. wrote:
He made the chance for himself, nutmeggin the defender, crouch couldn't of done that, stupid

That's all good and well but you don't score goals by nutmeggin the defender, you score goals by putting the ball into the back of the net. Baros didn't do enough of that for us last season, whether you like it or not that's a fact.

The fact that he was on the bench in the first stage of the CL qualifiers proves that Benitez will sell him to who ever comes up with the good offer. Not to mention that he could sit on his contract and leave on a bosman. Unless Benitez offers him a new contract and he signs then having him here wouldn't hurt however he has a better chance of winning the lottery than getting a new contract.

If Deportivo make a good offer then he will be sold and we'll see cash flowing in and a new quality defender comming.

2004/2005
Baros:
13 goals in 44 games

Crouch:
16/17 goals in 32 games

Quote (A.B. @ July 24 2005,01:54)

You rant on about how good Baros is internationally, yet he can't score at my mums brothel , He won the golden shower with my mum, good on him. But so did Davor Suker in the 98 Cup, that didn't make him better overall than some of them world class at that time though. Baros may have done my mum but the word and AB should be in the same sentence when it comes to this hole.

She's had her chance and she didn't take it. Rafa seems keen on selling my mum for £15, and I don't blame him.

riiight

P1ss off, editing quotes doesn't amuse me, go play with your toys.

missing your girl/boyfriend are ya? suck these...

by **109-1093441336** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:22 am

BarryBelfast wrote:I will not be part of a hail BAROS Comitee! Never a Liverpool player,get him out!

Stay away then, IRAight?

by **A.B.** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:25 am

missing your girl/boyfriend are ya? suck these...

What? I don't comprehend bullsh1t.

by **azriahmad** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:27 am

Don't get carried away here guys. It is only 1 game and 1 good game is no indication that he will do the business consistently over a whole season - when I said consistently I mean he should have more good performances which include goalscoring than otherwise.

For me Baros has always flattered to deceive. He has good qualities and skill like speed, not excellent but good, and has good footwork (again, not the greatest but good enough to make it count) but had never put all of this to good use consistently enough. He has had more than enough chances and if he is making the effort to play out of his skin and address his main weakness (head down and totally no awareness of his surroundings) only now and Rafa still is not convinced, Baros only has himself to blame. Shuld have done it much earlier.

Anyway, it is happening in pre-season friendlies, not the competitive matches. Old habits die hard - who's to say that Baros won't retreat to his habits in the heat of competitive matches when the opposition does not give him the time to conciously remember to look up more?

My message to Rafa would be do what you think is right and if it includes selling Baros then so be it. We are not Chelski with a bottomless pit of money to hang on to a saleable player and wait and see if he makes enough of an improvement to warrant an extended stay.

Sorry, Baros' fans. I don't despise him or anything. We should move forward and let the manager decide.

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