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by **LFC #1** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:33 pm

dawson99 wrote:andall the mass burial graves still to be found. they were found in 93, more being found now.

that was in Bosnia, the Serbians killed all the Muslims.

One of my best mates is a Muslim-Bosnian, and one of his best friend's and their family had to flee without their father, who was taken by the Serbs and they never heard from him again, or know what happened to him. Can you imagien living with that, not ever knowing what happened to him, it woudl be terrible.

Despicable, and Milosevic is still yet to be prosecuted the :censored:

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by **IstanBuL-FenerBaHce** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:34 pm

As a citizen of a counrty which lost 30.000 people because of terrorism, i have to say im so sad about these bombings..I know what u feel

El Kaide(their turkish name) did similar actions last year in Istanbul and we lost over than 30 people....

But about these events, i agree with Fowler_E7...

Everybody know that USA government aren't in the MiddleEast to bring freedom and liberty...They kill soldiers, but thousands of civils too -and these werent "war accidents"!- Every year thousands of Iraq and Pelestinian kids were killed by the USA forces.

And your government is always in a company with USA...The bombs fall on the civil buildings from your planes too, the bullets-shells are stuck in young bodies from your guns too...Thats not hard to understand why these things happened yesterday..I'm not saying these radicals are right, but i can understand why they did it.

I hope that will never ever be repeated again and one day 'terrorism' come to an end...But there is only one thing to arrive this ending: Let nations to decide their own destiny....

We, Turkish people, share your pain... R.I.P

by **Fowler_E7** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:34 pm

dawson99 wrote:andall the mass burial graves still to be found. they were found in 93, more being found now. war is not right, not saying it is, but sometimes its neccesary. if it happened to me and i was upset id go after the governments, not the people, thats just cowardice of the highest form

and what about the graves they will have to dig now for the hundreds of thousands who die in these so called "necessary" wars. We were told by the Blair and co that the iraq and afghanistan wars were done to protect us from attacks by saddam hussain and others, but my city was never attacked my middle eastern terrorists in my lifetime before these wars :glare:

by **LFC #1** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:35 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
LFC #1 wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
LFC #1 wrote:have to say I agree dawson. Casualties of war are (usually) not meant to be killed, whereas terrorism is aimed to kill innocent people, it's extremely cowardly.

terrorism is cowardly no doubt about it, but so is bombing defencless countrys into the ground with billions of pounds worth of aircraft, missiles, guns and army personel.

thats what does my headin with Israel. They destroy whole Palestinian towns, and these poor Paelstinians have no money or place to live.

And don't get me started on Ariel Sharon, setting up illegal settlements on palestinain land so Israel can claim more and more of Palestines land if they ever come to an agreement (massive if).

exactly, and people wonder why terrorism is a growing problem. The world we live in at the moment is a breeding ground for hate because of the actions of the west and israel and its allies. Why the politicians cant settle these issues with these endless confrences and meetings they have is beyond me. Surely peoples safety should be the most important thing to any countrys leader.

the problem in the middle-east is the governmnts, and the amount of corruption which allows guys liek Saddam to emerge.

by **Fowler_E7** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:42 pm

LFC #1 wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
LFC #1 wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
LFC #1 wrote:have to say I agree dawson. Casualties of war are (usually) not meant to be killed, whereas terrorism is aimed to kill innocent people, it's extremely cowardly.

terrorism is cowardly no doubt about it, but so is bombing defencless countrys into the ground with billions of pounds worth of aircraft, missiles, guns and army personel.

thats what does my headin with Israel. They destroy whole Palestinian towns, and these poor Paelstinians have no money or place to live.

And don't get me started on Ariel Sharon, setting up illegal settlements on palestinain land so Israel can claim more and more of Palestines land if they ever come to an agreement (massive if).

exactly, and people wonder why terrorism is a growing problem. The world we live in at the moment is a breeding ground for hate because of the actions of the west and israel and its allies. Why the politicians cant settle these issues with these endless confrences and meetings they have is beyond me. Surely peoples safety should be the most important thing to any countrys leader.

the problem in the middle-east is the governmnts, and the amount of corruption which allows guys liek Saddam to emerge.

and who do you think allows guys like saddam to emerge and remain powerful

dig a little deeper and you will learn that the US and it's allies have put in place and backed loads of currupt and evil goverments all over the globe.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:45 pm

They have a huge farking helicopter that can peek over the tops of trees and photograph a whole farking battlefield. Then it lands and at the press of one button, it can destroy the whole field, individual targets, or even selected groups, farking amazing. They have a missile that can be fired at a target thousands of miles away and it is so farking accurate that not only can it hit a single house, it can be fired through the farking letter box, destroying everything inside, yet leaving the building standing.

Osama Bin Laden escapes on a farking donkey... dohh!

by **dawson99** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:46 pm

u r all right, but doesnt make terorrism any more right. period.

by **LFC #1** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:54 pm

I realise that, and the problem is that the people put in charge are of a Miltary background and run the country like a dictatorship. Now that America has committed to this war they have to ensure that a sound governemnt is put in place and the country starts to run like a democracy. Their job is far form done, and if America pull out to early it is likely Iraq will plunge into civial war and the insurgents in the contry will take over.

I honestly think a solution for Iraq could be following a simlar path to Yugoslavia by splitting up the country into 3 like they did with Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia. In this case the division seems to be between the Sunni's, Shi'ites and Kurds, so make Kurdistan an independent nation and split Iraq in 2.

by **LFC #1** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:07 pm

G8 summit conclusion has been reached, $3 billion in additional support for the Palestinians.

by **dawson99** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:09 pm

but splitting korea in 2 hasnt worked. and the fact that india and pakistand are 2 seperatre countries doesnt really make things any more peaceful. its way too complex for me to work out on a friday evening

by **LFC #1** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:12 pm

dawson99 wrote:but splitting korea in 2 hasnt worked. and the fact that india and pakistand are 2 seperatre countries doesnt really make things any more peaceful. its way too complex for me to work out on a friday evening

for South Korea it's worked.

India and Pakistan, well it's a lot better than it would be if it were one nation. The spilitting of Yugoslavia has helped a lot though.

by **Woollyback** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:21 pm

at this time of a friday afternoon G8 means only one thing to me - GROLSCH x 8 :buttrock

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekeeennnndddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **dawson99** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:23 pm

Woollyback wrote:at this time of a friday afternoon G8 means only one thing to me - GROLSCH x 8

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekeeennnndddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amen to that brother woolyback

:bowdown

by **dawson99** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:35 pm

interesting read

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news....rsion=1

by **stmichael** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:47 pm

did anyone hear what that tw@t george galloway said in the house of commons yesterday? he blamed the terrorist attacks on tony blair, claiming that this was payback for the war in iraq. ok you may not have agreed with the war, but to blame the prime minister for yesterday's events was nothing short of disgraceful. :no

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