Liverpool FC Forum

by **bigmick** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:04 pm

Footballs like that, sometimes you get beat. Today though, the issue is, the manner of defeat. Is it better to go down scrapping to the last drop of sweat through a self-inflicted numerical disadvantage, or to meekly roll over and accept a drubbing? I think most would concur that Evertons defeat at the hands of Chelski had a touch of glory about it whereas ours today just left a bitter taste in the mouth.
Who's to blame? Is it the manager for choosing the wrong players, sending out the wrong signals, not throwing enough teacups? Is it the players, overpaid and overblown with their own self-importance, strolling through games with the casual diffidence of primadonnas? Is it previous regimes for purchasing the wrong players, squandering transfer revenue and leaving the club a legacy of destitution?
It's probably an all-three combo. Rafa needs to identify what it is that makes the team tick and do it quickly. He needs to find a heartbeat for the team, a player from somewhere within the ranks who can sweat blood in the engine room of midfield. Is it Gerrard? maybe, but its not happening right now. He and we need to find out why. If he's leaving so what? No excuse in my book, he should still be giving 100% for the cause. If he isn't then drop him, yes I mean drop him. As for the rest of them, I hope the walls of the dressing room were peeling off with passion of the aftermatch inquest. The players seriously need to understand what it means to play for the club. Whether it takes a lesson in the history of LFC or a lecture on the disasters that have befallen the fans of this great club in the last couple of decades I don't know. Houlliers regime? don't get me started.
Fact is though, there are fans who spend their hard earned, travelling the length and breadth of Europe to support this club and its time the players/management realised that a little bit of sweat and effort every game is a prerequisite. It's what we ask for, nay demand. It's also what we deserve.

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:05 pm

which site did you rob this post off

by **bigmick** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:07 pm

Ah Marco, Mr Diaponeer. I think you probably already know that it's not a lift, it's outa me head son. A little bit like you and your young pals will be later on tonight no doubt.

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:08 pm

they need to sort things out pretty soon, there isnt any commitment from the players, with the exception of JC

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:11 pm

bigmick wrote:Ah Marco, Mr Diaponeer. I think you probably already know that it's not a lift, it's outa me head son. A little bit like you and your young pals will be later on tonight no doubt.

wasnt it you who robbed a post of koptalk and passed it off as your own

i understand what you are saying with your post but for me this has been a problem for a while with liverpool.

and im not dapioneer although i agree with some of his posts about ooters

by **Ciggy** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:11 pm

bigmick wrote:Footballs like that, sometimes you get beat. Today though, the issue is, the manner of defeat. Is it better to go down scrapping to the last drop of sweat through a self-inflicted numerical disadvantage, or to meekly roll over and accept a drubbing? I think most would concur that Evertons defeat at the hands of Chelski had a touch of glory about it whereas ours today just left a bitter taste in the mouth.
Who's to blame? Is it the manager for choosing the wrong players, sending out the wrong signals, not throwing enough teacups? Is it the players, overpaid and overblown with their own self-importance, strolling through games with the casual diffidence of primadonnas? Is it previous regimes for purchasing the wrong players, squandering transfer revenue and leaving the club a legacy of destitution?
It's probably an all-three combo. Rafa needs to identify what it is that makes the team tick and do it quickly. He needs to find a heartbeat for the team, a player from somewhere within the ranks who can sweat blood in the engine room of midfield. Is it Gerrard? maybe, but its not happening right now. He and we need to find out why. If he's leaving so what? No excuse in my book, he should still be giving 100% for the cause. If he isn't then drop him, yes I mean drop him. As for the rest of them, I hope the walls of the dressing room were peeling off with passion of the aftermatch inquest. The players seriously need to understand what it means to play for the club. Whether it takes a lesson in the history of LFC or a lecture on the disasters that have befallen the fans of this great club in the last couple of decades I don't know. Houlliers regime? don't get me started.
Fact is though, there are fans who have given their lives to support this club and its time the players/management realised that a little bit of sweat and effort every game is a prerequisite. It's what we ask for, nay demand. It's also what we deserve.

Great post again BigMick really hits the nail on the head, im going to bed now and my weekend is ruined we dont have a game for 10 days now, im just ashamed and hurt and gutted.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:11 pm

marklfc wrote:
bigmick wrote:Ah Marco, Mr Diaponeer. I think you probably already know that it's not a lift, it's outa me head son. A little bit like you and your young pals will be later on tonight no doubt.

wasnt it you who robbed a post of koptalk and passed it off as your own

i understand what you are saying with your post but for me this has been a problem for a while with liverpool.

and im not dapioneer although i agree with some of his posts about ooters

No it wasnt him :angry:

get your facts right before givin jib here @rsehole :angry:

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:13 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:
marklfc wrote:
bigmick wrote:Ah Marco, Mr Diaponeer. I think you probably already know that it's not a lift, it's outa me head son. A little bit like you and your young pals will be later on tonight no doubt.

wasnt it you who robbed a post of koptalk and passed it off as your own

i understand what you are saying with your post but for me this has been a problem for a while with liverpool.

and im not dapioneer although i agree with some of his posts about ooters

No it wasnt him get your facts right before givin jib here @rsehole

i was only messing about you stupid bint

by **Ciggy** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:15 pm

Would reply to that insult but not getting into a slanging match with you, dont want to spoil a good topic by BigMick.

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:18 pm

fair enough, the lad is right about how the players need to be taught the importance of playing for a club like liverpool who have a fantastic history and fans who take great pride in the club

by **L-type** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:20 pm

marklfc wrote:
cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:
marklfc wrote:
bigmick wrote:Ah Marco, Mr Diaponeer. I think you probably already know that it's not a lift, it's outa me head son. A little bit like you and your young pals will be later on tonight no doubt.

wasnt it you who robbed a post of koptalk and passed it off as your own

i understand what you are saying with your post but for me this has been a problem for a while with liverpool.

and im not dapioneer although i agree with some of his posts about ooters

No it wasnt him get your facts right before givin jib here @rsehole

i was only messing about you stupid bint

nah, you were deadly serious, but winning a fight online is like winning the special olympics, you may be a winner, but your still retarded.

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:22 pm

this forum can be really sh1t sometimes, i was only messing

by **A.B.** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:07 pm

Mess with yourself, you're walking on thin ice.

by **109-1105722616** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:08 pm

A.B. wrote:Mess with yourself, you're walking on thin ice.

ooooo

by **A.B.** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:17 pm

Despite the defeat today we should finish fourth at the end of the season. I can not see Bolton and Boro finishing above us.

Everton are in no better form than we are so we should be able to catch up to them before this all set and done.

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