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Carroll is looking a lot fitter and as if he's lost a few pounds, People say we will become a long ball team with him but Idont think that's true, if we had a good midfield this season (and only Lucas can come away with any credit, Even Gerrard has been hit and miss) Carrol would have a lot more to go off, if we had bought good wingers who could get good balls in off the wings like the Mancs do we would be talking about a different player, Downing and Henderson have been utter disasters.

was there a better player at Wembley?

Thommo's perm » Mon May 07, 2012 12:42 pm wrote:
I have just watched the highlights and it seems to me that this phrase *we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll" is untrue and gets people believing that this is actually the case. Yes there will be times when the ball is put into the penalty area with the hope that Carroll gets his head on it, which he did on nearly every occasion on saturday. But for the most part, if given proper service, like Suarez did with his pinpoint cross, then Carroll will deliver. As has been previously noted though, this pathetic and stupid claim that he is useless on the floor has been blown out of the water and any knob who says it again should just fu'ck off and watch synchronised swimming because they know fu'ck all about football

Where in that post or any other post have I said Andy is 'useless on the floor'? I think you'll find I haven't and yes we do play ugly, long balls to Carroll. We've been doing it all season long, we're just fortunate enough to have a player like Suarez in the team who makes things happen with his feet. We're not as bad as we used to be with the long ball game because Carragher is virtually out of the team, but we still lump the ball up to Carroll. In fact when Andy came on in the FA Cup final, that's all Downing was doing. Instead of playing the ball across midfield, Downing and Enrique were just trying to lump the ball across to Carroll. It was a desperate tactic from a desperate team that knew that time was running out for them to get an equaliser. So, no it's not a myth!

Boxscarf » Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 am wrote:

Thommo's perm » Mon May 07, 2012 12:42 pm wrote:
I have just watched the highlights and it seems to me that this phrase *we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll" is untrue and gets people believing that this is actually the case. Yes there will be times when the ball is put into the penalty area with the hope that Carroll gets his head on it, which he did on nearly every occasion on saturday. But for the most part, if given proper service, like Suarez did with his pinpoint cross, then Carroll will deliver. As has been previously noted though, this pathetic and stupid claim that he is useless on the floor has been blown out of the water and any knob who says it again should just fu'ck off and watch synchronised swimming because they know fu'ck all about football

Where in that post or any other post have I said Andy is 'useless on the floor'? I think you'll find I haven't and yes we do play ugly, long balls to Carroll. We've been doing it all season long, we're just fortunate enough to have a player like Suarez in the team who makes things happen with his feet. We're not as bad as we used to be with the long ball game because Carragher is virtually out of the team, but we still lump the ball up to Carroll. In fact when Andy came on in the FA Cup final, that's all Downing was doing. Instead of playing the ball across midfield, Downing and Enrique were just trying to lump the ball across to Carroll. It was a desperate tactic from a desperate team that knew that time was running out for them to get an equaliser. So, no it's not a myth!

When time's running out, it's customary to try to get the ball forwards quickly... 

RedAnt » Tue May 08, 2012 9:48 am wrote:

Boxscarf » Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 am wrote:

Thommo's perm » Mon May 07, 2012 12:42 pm wrote:
I have just watched the highlights and it seems to me that this phrase *we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll" is untrue and gets people believing that this is actually the case. Yes there will be times when the ball is put into the penalty area with the hope that Carroll gets his head on it, which he did on nearly every occasion on saturday. But for the most part, if given proper service, like Suarez did with his pinpoint cross, then Carroll will deliver. As has been previously noted though, this pathetic and stupid claim that he is useless on the floor has been blown out of the water and any knob who says it again should just fu'ck off and watch synchronised swimming because they know fu'ck all about football

Where in that post or any other post have I said Andy is 'useless on the floor'? I think you'll find I haven't and yes we do play ugly, long balls to Carroll. We've been doing it all season long, we're just fortunate enough to have a player like Suarez in the team who makes things happen with his feet. We're not as bad as we used to be with the long ball game because Carragher is virtually out of the team, but we still lump the ball up to Carroll. In fact when Andy came on in the FA Cup final, that's all Downing was doing. Instead of playing the ball across midfield, Downing and Enrique were just trying to lump the ball across to Carroll. It was a desperate tactic from a desperate team that knew that time was running out for them to get an equaliser. So, no it's not a myth!

When time's running out, it's customary to try to get the ball forwards quickly... 

Boxscarf » Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 am wrote:

Thommo's perm » Mon May 07, 2012 12:42 pm wrote:
I have just watched the highlights and it seems to me that this phrase *we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll" is untrue and gets people believing that this is actually the case. Yes there will be times when the ball is put into the penalty area with the hope that Carroll gets his head on it, which he did on nearly every occasion on saturday. But for the most part, if given proper service, like Suarez did with his pinpoint cross, then Carroll will deliver. As has been previously noted though, this pathetic and stupid claim that he is useless on the floor has been blown out of the water and any knob who says it again should just fu'ck off and watch synchronised swimming because they know fu'ck all about football

Where in that post or any other post have I said Andy is 'useless on the floor'? I think you'll find I haven't and yes we do play ugly, long balls to Carroll. We've been doing it all season long, we're just fortunate enough to have a player like Suarez in the team who makes things happen with his feet. We're not as bad as we used to be with the long ball game because Carragher is virtually out of the team, but we still lump the ball up to Carroll. In fact when Andy came on in the FA Cup final, that's all Downing was doing. Instead of playing the ball across midfield, Downing and Enrique were just trying to lump the ball across to Carroll. It was a desperate tactic from a desperate team that knew that time was running out for them to get an equaliser. So, no it's not a myth!

Except that on saturday Suarez was largely anoynymous not helped by how deep Gerrard was but also because he seemed to struggle with the wet pitch in terms of his ball control. At least when Carroll came on we had a target to bring others into the play and make things happen. We also had someone in the box for the first goal and for the one that wasn't.

roberto green » Mon May 07, 2012 12:47 pm wrote:Carroll is looking a lot fitter and as if he's lost a few pounds, People say we will become a long ball team with him but Idont think that's true, if we had a good midfield this season (and only Lucas can come away with any credit, Even Gerrard has been hit and miss) Carrol would have a lot more to go off, if we had bought good wingers who could get good balls in off the wings like the Mancs do we would be talking about a different player, Downing and Henderson have been utter disasters.

I agree about Downing and Henderson but I think that a contributory factor is that we don't move the ball around enough quickly enough so that by the time any crosses do come in the opposition have enough people back to deal with those crosses. Adam is just too slow he plays the game at international pace but rarely picks out a great pass. I think much of his good play at Blackpool was down to direct counter attacks and the odd long range effort from outside the box that went in. Also because Blackpool conceded so many goals in the premiership they were a gung ho long ball team.

if he keeps his current form into next season then i think it safe to say he will have converted opinion just as Lucas did before him

Carroll has looked every bit the player we expected of late

another big performance from the big man tonight, he carried on from where he left off on saturday.
although i`m behind kenny it has to be said that whilst it`s true chelsea did make a lot of changes their centre half pairing tonight was the same one that they played with on saturday and carroll has demolished them again, i know its all hindsight but not starting carroll or at least not putting him on at half time probably cost us the F.A cup.
carroll is now playing like he did at newcastle,  i remember him wrecking our defence up at st. james and that day it was skrtel and big soto who was a tough lad, soto once had his teeth knocked out by kevin davies when we played bolton but just shrugged it off and had a stormer and he was great against the stoke`s and everton`s but soto and skrtel, just like terry and ivanovic (all 4 are good tough physical centre halves) have found out that an in form and up for it andy carroll is virtually unplayable.

Boxscarf » Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 am wrote:

Thommo's perm » Mon May 07, 2012 12:42 pm wrote:
I have just watched the highlights and it seems to me that this phrase *we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll" is untrue and gets people believing that this is actually the case. Yes there will be times when the ball is put into the penalty area with the hope that Carroll gets his head on it, which he did on nearly every occasion on saturday. But for the most part, if given proper service, like Suarez did with his pinpoint cross, then Carroll will deliver. As has been previously noted though, this pathetic and stupid claim that he is useless on the floor has been blown out of the water and any knob who says it again should just fu'ck off and watch synchronised swimming because they know fu'ck all about football

Where in that post or any other post have I said Andy is 'useless on the floor'? I think you'll find I haven't and yes we do play ugly, long balls to Carroll. We've been doing it all season long, we're just fortunate enough to have a player like Suarez in the team who makes things happen with his feet. We're not as bad as we used to be with the long ball game because Carragher is virtually out of the team, but we still lump the ball up to Carroll. In fact when Andy came on in the FA Cup final, that's all Downing was doing. Instead of playing the ball across midfield, Downing and Enrique were just trying to lump the ball across to Carroll. It was a desperate tactic from a desperate team that knew that time was running out for them to get an equaliser. So, no it's not a myth!

Suck my lumps!

Exceptional performance, deserved motm.

It would appear that his display when he came off the bench in the Cup final has lifted the weight off his shoulders as he looks much more content. Moving much better also.

Its the best i've seen him by a mile, and he does look a real handful. Terrorized their backline. Keeps doing that humble pie will be gladly eaten.

The main reservation i have (and have always had) is does he compliment Suarez? Was there much interplay between the two? Suarez is a keep it on the floor player, and likes to link up with fast attacking play.. one twos, interplay..the manner inwhich he does with similar type players with Uruguay.

The aerial stuff is a good alternative.. especially when he plays like that. He has to maintain this and kick on now.

We need to sign a clinical #9 to finish off moves in tight games.... and with Suarez and Carroll (maintaining the form he showed tonight) that would see us well equipped upfront.

Should add... we all said he should have started at Wembley... and after that tonight it only further adds to the baffling decision not to.

Jay Spearing over Andy Carroll was probably Kenny's worst selection decision all season.

Yes, he's looking like he will become an important member of the squad and as you say it's all about options so we also need a natural goal scorer.

Let's now drop the constant references to his signing on fee and judge him for his performances on the field.

Welcome to Liverpool FC Andy Carroll !!!!! Just a phenomenal performance and beginning to show his real potential just like Kenny said he would - sweet Carroll........ WHAT A FKG NIGHT !!!!!!!!

D___C » Wed May 09, 2012 12:56 am wrote:Exceptional performance, deserved motm.

It would appear that his display when he came off the bench in the Cup final has lifted the weight off his shoulders as he looks much more content. Moving much better also.

Its the best i've seen him by a mile, and he does look a real handful. Terrorized their backline. Keeps doing that humble pie will be gladly eaten.

The main reservation i have (and have always had) is does he compliment Suarez? Was there much interplay between the two? Suarez is a keep it on the floor player, and likes to link up with fast attacking play.. one twos, interplay..the manner inwhich he does with similar type players with Uruguay.

The aerial stuff is a good alternative.. especially when he plays like that. He has to maintain this and kick on now.

We need to sign a clinical #9 to finish off moves in tight games.... and with Suarez and Carroll (maintaining the form he showed tonight) that would see us well equipped upfront.

So the £35 million donkey -flop should stay now?
How fickle you are...