Andy Carroll signs for West Ham

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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:56 pm

jacdaniel wrote:
Franky000 wrote:"He was bought for 5 years not 6 months"

Rafa said the same about Aquilani  :D

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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:08 pm

I've come to the conclusion ,he's pretty sh!t and we should cash in as soon as possble . Awful first touch , terrible passing ability , can't head ,woeful positioning sense and doesn't fit into our most effective way of playing. Which is fast paced pass and move ,not to his stregnths i'm afraid which is his height and he can't use that well . I don't blame him cos obviously he's always been that :censored: i blame kenny and comolli for buying him . Sell as soon as we can and try and by a proper striker.
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:31 pm

talksh#te actually discussing this carroll to newcastle deal as if it could happen, even though the story has no quotes whatsoever.  :laugh:
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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:43 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:I've come to the conclusion ,he's pretty sh!t and we should cash in as soon as possble . Awful first touch , terrible passing ability , can't head ,woeful positioning sense and doesn't fit into our most effective way of playing. Which is fast paced pass and move ,not to his stregnths i'm afraid which is his height and he can't use that well . I don't blame him cos obviously he's always been that :censored: i blame kenny and comolli for buying him . Sell as soon as we can and try and by a proper striker.

Can KK have been soooooooooo wrong?
Why didnt he see that Carroll wasnt just not very good, he was total and absolute SH'ITE!!
Does KK need certifying for making such an embarrassing, ridiculous, disgraceful and unforgivable mistake? Can we trust him after being such a t'it?
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:51 pm

Carroll will come good
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Postby supersub » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:58 pm

Carroll will be on the pitch tonight
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:10 pm

supersub wrote:Carroll will be on the pitch tonight

..and he'll score  :buttrock
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:12 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:I've come to the conclusion ,he's pretty sh!t and we should cash in as soon as possble . Awful first touch , terrible passing ability , can't head ,woeful positioning sense and doesn't fit into our most effective way of playing. Which is fast paced pass and move ,not to his stregnths i'm afraid which is his height and he can't use that well . I don't blame him cos obviously he's always been that :censored: i blame kenny and comolli for buying him . Sell as soon as we can and try and by a proper striker.

Can KK have been soooooooooo wrong?
Why didnt he see that Carroll wasnt just not very good, he was total and absolute SH'ITE!!
Does KK need certifying for making such an embarrassing, ridiculous, disgraceful and unforgivable mistake? Can we trust him after being such a t'it?
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Firstly I am not writing Carroll off.

Secondly Dalglish isn't the decision maker when it comes to transfers, Comolli is.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:22 pm

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Thommo's perm wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:I've come to the conclusion ,he's pretty sh!t and we should cash in as soon as possble . Awful first touch , terrible passing ability , can't head ,woeful positioning sense and doesn't fit into our most effective way of playing. Which is fast paced pass and move ,not to his stregnths i'm afraid which is his height and he can't use that well . I don't blame him cos obviously he's always been that :censored: i blame kenny and comolli for buying him . Sell as soon as we can and try and by a proper striker.

Can KK have been soooooooooo wrong?
Why didnt he see that Carroll wasnt just not very good, he was total and absolute SH'ITE!!
Does KK need certifying for making such an embarrassing, ridiculous, disgraceful and unforgivable mistake? Can we trust him after being such a t'it?
:(

Firstly I am not writing Carroll off.

Secondly Dalglish isn't the decision maker when it comes to transfers, Comolli is.

Then we have a seriously bad situation if KK has no control over which players are bought.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:37 pm

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Thommo's perm wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:I've come to the conclusion ,he's pretty sh!t and we should cash in as soon as possble . Awful first touch , terrible passing ability , can't head ,woeful positioning sense and doesn't fit into our most effective way of playing. Which is fast paced pass and move ,not to his stregnths i'm afraid which is his height and he can't use that well . I don't blame him cos obviously he's always been that :censored: i blame kenny and comolli for buying him . Sell as soon as we can and try and by a proper striker.

Can KK have been soooooooooo wrong?
Why didnt he see that Carroll wasnt just not very good, he was total and absolute SH'ITE!!
Does KK need certifying for making such an embarrassing, ridiculous, disgraceful and unforgivable mistake? Can we trust him after being such a t'it?
:(

Firstly I am not writing Carroll off.

Secondly Dalglish isn't the decision maker when it comes to transfers, Comolli is.

Then we have a seriously bad situation if KK has no control over which players are bought.
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Wait a minute lash , kenny and comolli are human ffs . They can and do make mistakes ,all managers do . As long as they get the majority of signings right i'm happy and i think they have. I.m not blaming or being unkind to carroll , it was always going to be a big ask and he's not up to it in my opinion ,that's all . If you think that kenny doesn't have a say in who we buy or sell then your barking .
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:52 pm

Having said all that , hope the lad has blinder  tonight and fecks all us doubting thomas's right off.
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Postby peterc1992 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:03 pm

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Reg wrote:15 million though... jeez, bring back Torres for 15 and it will take away the pain but to lose 20 million plus 6 months wages.... disaster.

It wouldnt end up like that at all.

We got 50 for torres

Spent 35 on Carroll,(lets say)

We get(lets say) 15 mill selling carroll

Thats a profit of 30 million. It has been less wages than Torres  for the year and Carroll has more goals than Torres since.Not that bad of business to be honest. We spent 22 on Suarez so that steal almost cancels out misvalue of the Caroll deal.


It would mean that Torres deal woud only be effectively be worth 30 mill.But in its own right that is a good bit of business now.

If any one of the other top clubs in the world lost 20 million (and it is a loss i dont care what way you cut it. We dont have the money anymore so we lost it)

We would be laughing our asses off right now. If he is sold then people need looking at that allowed this transfer to happen in the first place.

A last ditch deadline day panic buy of a player with known personal problems at a fee twice of what he was worth.

Probably the worst bit of transfer dealing since someone came in and said "Screw Anelka ive seen this other lad thats much better"

With any luck we will keep him.

Reading over what I said.good bit of busines wasnt meant to come out.

My point just being that if he was to be sold  then the club would be admitting to a bad mistake .But not as much of a mistake/steal it was for torres and if we were to sell Carroll that we are still up 30 mill and we have 30 mill avaiable to buy another striker .

I dont want to sell Caroll.Im just making the point that if he doesnt have any future here in kennys eyes that selling him now wouldnt be the end of the word as we could cut our losses and move on.

Again,I was Caroll to stay and hope he is here for a long time to prove his worth
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:36 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:Having said all that , hope the lad has blinder  tonight and fecks all us doubting thomas's right off.

amen to that  :bowdown
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Postby devaney » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:42 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:Having said all that , hope the lad has blinder  tonight and fecks all us doubting thomas's right off.

amen to that  :bowdown

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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:36 pm

it was a decent save and a good turn by Carroll...but for the rest of the match he had little to go on.
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