Liverpool FC Forum

[roberto green]

Bloody hell Reg there's nothing like being positive is there, yes it's shows the strength in depth we have at the club at the moment but it also shows that WE HAVE GOT THE TALENT EMERGING, Just because we have spent millions on defenders It doesn't mean we can't make up for it in youth,

After all where do you think the likes of dare I say it a Gary/Phil Neville emerge from, A Ashley Cole, Clichy for Arsenal they were all kids when they broke into the team so why not us?

Alan Hansen once famously said "you win nothing with kids" Yep we all know how that ended.

[Roger Red Hat]

2nd biggest points haul in the league since he took over with a team of injured no hopes? Second only to Man utd who lets face it are gonna be champions.


yeah Reg times are hard pal

[dawson99]

Erm, Mourinho wouldnt come to the club as we wont spend 150 million every year

Arent we supposed to have slightly rose tinted glasses? Isn't that kinda the whole point?

[parchpea]

We appear to have some real promising lads emerging for the first time a very long time and no reason not to be happy about that. If we only get a couple hitting the heights its good work. Great things are possible for these kids and in turn it can really create a positive energy around the club and help everyone involved. Sure we need half dozen ready made to come in now into this first team but having these young pups about keeps everyone on their toes and adds another dimension to our squad, that hunger and cockyness only young players can have, it can be infectious.

[burjennio]

Reg..

Why you gotta break balls    

No ones expecting to build a championship winnning team around the academy, we are looking to get to the end of this season with a real platform for next, and I cant think of a better way to do that than by blooding some of our most promising youngsters to gain them a little experience for our first full season under the King. That way they already have experience of playing at the highest level, and in Robinson and Flannigans case of playing and excelling against the very best the Premier league has to offer can only give them the confidence to become permanant fixtures in the 1st team. Johnny Flannigan has well and truly been thrown in at the deep end with his 1st 2 games being against Arsenal and City - and the lad didnt put a foot wrong! If anything that only increases my confidence of how well we can do next season with these young players ready to step in along with a few quality additions to the squad

[7_Kewell]

pass the razor blades!

[greenred]

I disagree with you Reg.Jut because there young doesn't mean there not good enough.Sure you can say that there not experienced enough and that we were playing an important game against Arsenal but they have to start off somewhere.In some way's I know where your coming from ut in other way's your wrong.The point is we haven't had many young players coming through since Carra and Stevie G and we need some fresh young blood.That was one of Rafael Benitez's faults.He didn't use the academy.

[PabloMedina28]

Liverpool play 3 teenagers against Arsenal in the end of season run in, a 17 and 18 year old as left and right backs and we fans become delirious 'We can see the future', 'We're going to win the league and champions league next year'. Lets be honest, NO club in the 1st through 4th division put out two defenders of 17 and 18 last weekend except Liverpool. Not even the team bottom of the 4th division - and I don't need to check. Its a sham and shows what a TERRIBLE state the club is in. Other top sides must be amazed how we manage to stay in the top half of the league.

Mourinho would disagree with the club's assessment which is why he'll never come to Anfield - his philosophy is if you want success you need 2 world class defenders and if you don't have them, buy them in.  Wenger refuses to accept he needs to bring in players and Arsenal will not win a cup again whilst he is in charge.

ManUre have Evra at left back, Chelsea have Cashley. Liverpool have a constantly injured Fabio and a 17 year old. In the centre we have the constantly injured Agger.  Skrtel hasn't played well since his injury against Chelsea 3 years ago and Carra (90 thou a week) is playing out of his skin to plug the holes.

It reminds me of countless scenes from the film 'Life of Brian' where everyone is constantly BS'ing each other...... Kenny is the messiah, Kenny in reality is trying to paint over the cracks whilst no one's looking. The crowd shouts 'We want Kenny' (instead of Berwabbas) and the Romans (owners) say 'Dammit we want a young manager but if thats what they want give them Kenny'.  And the Kop happily singing 'Always look on the bright side of life.....'.

If you look at the club without the rose tinted sunglasses, playing Academy youngsters in the 1st XI is a sad, sad reflection on the state of the club.

No ones barmy most people on here tell it how they see it and i for one dont know how anyone cant be excited about a very bright future. The owners, Managment, academy everything seems to be pointing towards this.

Everyone knows we have to improve most areas in the team and we will in the summer. But the fact we have these great youngsters coming through is very promising in the future and in Suso, Sterling and Kelly i believe we have 3 possible world class players in the making. You could argue we have atleast 10 who could be real top quality. These reliable youngsters like Flanno and Robbo also mean we can spend big on a world class LB for instance as apposed to getting 2 good LBs.

I dont think people are getting carried away, from what i read in the media thier are alot of people from outside the club even country that recognise the talent we have coming through so its not just the bias fans singin the praises of them.

Its good to have a wait and see mentality with these youngsters ofcourse but i think to be negative about the situation were in doesnt help.

[PabloMedina28]

Whilst I admire the loyalty and comparison with Pele, I don't think our two lads have gathered the experience nor maturity to create the defense platform for LFC to be a title contender. There are a lot of very good (and hard) midfielders and forwards out there who these young lads need to play week in week out for a few years more yet before they're ready for the first team.

A team of Shelvey and Kelly's etc.. might make a half reasonable mid league team but not title contenders.

Kellys gonna be a beast of a defender hes pretty complete already and Shelvey will devolpe into a top quality midfielder himself once he gets rid of his rough edges. Suso and Sterling will be 2 of the best players in the pemiership in 5 years time. We just had a 17 and 18 year old who held thier own against the 2 of the best wingers in teh league and will surely improve as they get older. Throw in the likes of Wilson Wisdom Morgan Ngoo Coady who are all equally as good and offer different attributes to the team. I really cant see why a team full of these players wouldnt ammount to much. Jesus were 6th with a team thats had the likes of Koncheskey Poulsen Soto Maxi Cole etc. doing thier best to up the season and i 100% certain the youngsters mentioned will become better players then them lot in afew years.

Also whos saying the team will only consist of these players anyway? Add to that Suarez, Carroll, Gerrard, Kuyt, Lucas and Miereles along with some (most likely) young quality additions in the summer and were sorted.

[PabloMedina28]

Whilst I admire the loyalty and comparison with Pele, I don't think our two lads have gathered the experience nor maturity to create the defense platform for LFC to be a title contender. There are a lot of very good (and hard) midfielders and forwards out there who these young lads need to play week in week out for a few years more yet before they're ready for the first team.

A team of Shelvey and Kelly's etc.. might make a half reasonable mid league team but not title contenders.

I for one would not suggest that youth players are capable of winning a title? But they have provided us options now.

We are playing youth players out of necessity, but their performance's have been beyond our expectations and because of this we are celebrating how well they've done.

Those performance's also show potential, potential that many of us never knew we had in those positions at a youth level.

I knew.......................Div 

[Thommo's perm]

Liverpool play 3 teenagers against Arsenal in the end of season run in, a 17 and 18 year old as left and right backs and we fans become delirious 'We can see the future', 'We're going to win the league and champions league next year'. Lets be honest, NO club in the 1st through 4th division put out two defenders of 17 and 18 last weekend except Liverpool. Not even the team bottom of the 4th division - and I don't need to check. Its a sham and shows what a TERRIBLE state the club is in. Other top sides must be amazed how we manage to stay in the top half of the league.

Mourinho would disagree with the club's assessment which is why he'll never come to Anfield - his philosophy is if you want success you need 2 world class defenders and if you don't have them, buy them in.  Wenger refuses to accept he needs to bring in players and Arsenal will not win a cup again whilst he is in charge.

ManUre have Evra at left back, Chelsea have Cashley. Liverpool have a constantly injured Fabio and a 17 year old. In the centre we have the constantly injured Agger.  Skrtel hasn't played well since his injury against Chelsea 3 years ago and Carra (90 thou a week) is playing out of his skin to plug the holes.

It reminds me of countless scenes from the film 'Life of Brian' where everyone is constantly BS'ing each other...... Kenny is the messiah, Kenny in reality is trying to paint over the cracks whilst no one's looking. The crowd shouts 'We want Kenny' (instead of Berwabbas) and the Romans (owners) say 'Dammit we want a young manager but if thats what they want give them Kenny'.  And the Kop happily singing 'Always look on the bright side of life.....'.

If you look at the club without the rose tinted sunglasses, playing Academy youngsters in the 1st XI is a sad, sad reflection on the state of the club.

Whoa there Reginald!
Has someone tampered with the brakes on your bathchair?
Those two babies performing like they did against the second best team in England has got to get your pulse racing a little bit hasnt it? (not too much though eh?)
Its not much of a mystery to me how we manage to stay in the top half of the league. It is BECAUSE of the likes of the two pups that snuffed out Arsenals danger men that we will continue to get points. Im a great believer in the reserves system where people come through the ranks, as it used to be. Of course we need new signings but the focus must be on local talent, supplemented by arrivals. Lets celebrate the spirit and tenacity shown by our younguns instead of undermining them with accusationsof them not being good enough.
By the way Evra and Cole are dodgy in my humble opinion...

[PabloMedina28]

I disagree with you Reg.Jut because there young doesn't mean there not good enough.Sure you can say that there not experienced enough and that we were playing an important game against Arsenal but they have to start off somewhere.In some way's I know where your coming from ut in other way's your wrong.The point is we haven't had many young players coming through since Carra and Stevie G and we need some fresh young blood.That was one of Rafael Benitez's faults.He didn't use the academy.

To be fair hes the one who gave it a reboot. Ask Kenny

[Thommo's perm]

I disagree with you Reg.Jut because there young doesn't mean there not good enough.Sure you can say that there not experienced enough and that we were playing an important game against Arsenal but they have to start off somewhere.In some way's I know where your coming from ut in other way's your wrong.The point is we haven't had many young players coming through since Carra and Stevie G and we need some fresh young blood.That was one of Rafael Benitez's faults.He didn't use the academy.

To be fair hes the one who gave it a reboot. Ask Kenny

He would have played Flano wide left and Robbo Centre forward

[Greavesie]

To an extent I have to agree with Reg. What does it say about the state of the club post twit and tw@t when we had two kids at full back? Imagine they got slaughtered, we'd be staring at the realisation of the club's situation, accepting that the task at hand is a mammoth one that would take years to remedy - IMO it still is, regardless of the performances of the young guns. Fortunately though the kids have managed to take advantage of the circumstances in which they have been presented and shown what they can do, making overlooking them a lot more difficult in the future

I was watching the match with a neutral and I have to say I shat myself when I saw the subs benches of both sides, we were so lacking in depth it was depressing to read on paper.

Obviously the future looks a bit brighter now and the young lads have that hunger and conifdence but it could have easily went the other way...

[cptrios]

I definitely agree that the fact that we need to play a 17 year old and an 18 year old in defense is pretty awful...however, to say that their performance doesn't bode well for the future is silly. Flanagan looks at least like a solid future squad player and Robinson could be a long-term starter eventually.

Not to mention the others... in my opinion, Sterling (if he bulks up a bit) and Kelly (if he can stay healthy) are destined for the national team. Robinson, Ngoo, Wisdom, Suso, Silva, and Coady all have at least a chance of making it to that level. Not tomorrow, but someday!