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[metalhead]

It's over this year for me. We had a great chance and we blew it. Sure in theory we can still win it as it is mathematically possible but in reality it's not going to happen.

If the home support at Anfield was full of people like you it'd be like a fu.cking wake every week.

Personally I think we'll start playing better now that we're chasing rather than being chased.

Unless we get a bit of styling with our formation here and there and we will drop points, as usual.

Lets stick to the same formation, play players in form, not drop players in form.

[Kash_Mountain]

It's over this year for me. We had a great chance and we blew it. Sure in theory we can still win it as it is mathematically possible but in reality it's not going to happen.

If the home support at Anfield was full of people like you it'd be like a fu.cking wake every week.

Personally I think we'll start playing better now that we're chasing rather than being chased.

All fans need to come together and be positive whereever they may be around the world.  We have every chance of winning the league and believe me, Mwanck U will drop a good number of points down the line and we'll pick them up.

So let' all concentrate at the same time and send positive thought energy to the lads 

[Alex G.]

I know I guess most of that stems from our inabiity to take the good chance we had to widen this gap. It's just that had we turned a few of those draws to wins the league would have seemed that little bit closer to us.

Hey bavy, come on lad, that´s not a winner mentality, we are in the position that we were dreaming for years, January and just one point behind the leader. We have to focus in our own game and have faith on ourselves.

[redhayesy]

It's over this year for me. We had a great chance and we blew it. Sure in theory we can still win it as it is mathematically possible but in reality it's not going to happen.

If the home support at Anfield was full of people like you it'd be like a fu.cking wake every week.

Personally I think we'll start playing better now that we're chasing rather than being chased.

All fans need to come together and be positive whereever they may be around the world.  We have every chance of winning the league and believe me, Mwanck U will drop a good number of points down the line and we'll pick them up.

So let' all concentrate at the same time and send positive thought energy to the lads 

live in the real world of the new kit forum mate! i totally agree with you, however there are to many people on here who would rather just resort to personal abuse for your opinion rather than support LFC -nice try mate i like your style.

                          NEVER STOP BELEIVING

                      COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS.

[Raffmaker]

Need to show some guts now. Hope Torres hits some good form. we have normally been good in previous run-ins.

Remember, now its all about pride.

[bigmick]

Well no surprises that the Mancs got up again with a last minute winner. They seem to be doing it every match these days, and it's this ability to go all out for wins which looks like it might end up being the difference. The four draws against average sides at Home, the settling for a point when teams are reduced to ten men didn't look overly costly at the time but they do now. Those who desperately tried to drown out any dissenting voices with abuse, derision and ridicule at the time were wrong. They were wrong last season when they kept repeating "but we're unbeaten" (we know) and they've been wrong this season with attemtps to paint any dissenters as "not real fans".

Fortunately though despite everything, the fact that the Mancs absolutely crawled out of the blocks means that even with their their recent ominous run, we're still in it. I said a couple of weeks back the bell had already rung and the sprint for the finish was very much on, and it most definately is. I've also been saying for a couple of weeks now that I get the feeling we are in the early stages of a "style-fest". I so so so so hope I'm wrong on this. Now is not the time for experimental formations, Kuyt on his own up top, Dossena on the pitch etc. If there ever was one now is the time to find a line up and a method, then broadly stick to it (BUT NOT TO PLAY THE SAME TEAM IN EVERY SINGLE GAME!!!!!!!).

If a striker hits form, now is the time to play him in the next match. If Torres for instance comes back and gets hot, we are close enough to the finish line for it to concieveably carry us over. If Keane scores two goals on the next occasion that he plays (whenever that is) that wouldn't be the time to sit him on his erse. Now is the time to go with those on form, and if someone finds some stick with them.

If it's 1-1 with 40 minutes to go and the opposition get someone sent off, now is not the time to settle for a point. Even if they don't get someone sent off, now is the time when we should gamble and go all out for the win. If that means we have to occasionally change from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2, so be it. If we go behind or are drawing the match and things aren't working out, now isn't the time to wait until there's 15 minutes left before we change it. It isn't the time to be getting bogged down in contract negotiations either.

For some time now some of us have argued that it's a weaker Premiership because you wouldn't have to be as good a team to win it this term as you would previously, and probably will do in the future. Because of that, we have had the opportunity to have a bit of a lead which for a number of reasons we've been unable to take advantage of (FWIW I think despite some bizarre decisions, if Torres had remained fit we'd be well clear by now).  As it is though, we didn't take the chance and we are now head to head (as it's absolutely a 2 horse race from here on in IMHO) with a team who've given us a start but are now looking like a good side. If we are going to prevail, we are going to have to win nearly every match, because they will.

It should have been a relatively easy Premiership to win (NOTE THE WORD RELATIVELY-THAT MEANS EASIER THAN IT USUALLY IS) but from here it's going to take a gargantuan effort. Time will tell if the team and manager are up to it.

[Thingy]

Liverpool Football Club dosent know the meaning of phrases such as " throwing in the towel " and " rolling over and dying". The title race starts for real as soon as the first whistle blows on Monday night. Yes, United are top and yes, Chelsea are breathing down our necks. But we thrive under pressure. I could sit here all day naming examples, but for anyone whos heart isnt in this as much as others, go to a nice little website called " You tube". Type in " Gerrard Olympiakos" " Liverpool Istanbul" " Liverpool West Ham FA Cup". If videos like that dont give you fire in your belly and belief that the title is coming back to Anfield then im afraid nothing will. People will see us as underdogs, but when has then ever hampered us before? It hasnt, its only made us stronger.


Imagine the look on auld whisky nose's face if Gerrard lifts the title aloft at Anfield. That in itself is enough to motivate you to make you believe this is our year. As seen elsewhere dosent matter if you like Kuyt or not, weather you like Rafa or not, just get behind the bloody team, and start believing we can we it, cos I for one have faith.


COME ON YOU REDS   

[bigmick]

As seen elsewhere dosent matter if you like Kuyt or not, weather you like Rafa or not, just get behind the bloody team, and start believing we can we it, cos I for one have faith.


COME ON YOU REDS   

Is it possible to "get behing the bloody team" even if you think that there's a good chance that we might not win it? That's kind of what I do, well as much as you can do watching it from the other side of the World anyway.

I won't do the old "buttrock buttrock" though as it's probably inappropriate from me on this occasion.

[Thingy]

Ive seen your posts Mick and correct me if im wrong you think this may not be our year? Thats fair enough mate , but if you go into something not full heartedly you probably wont suceed. Theres always going to be doubts as to wheather we can actually win it as appose to challenging, which to be fair we haven't even challenged with a meaningfull attempt for a good few years. As most do , im referring to the CL final in Istanbul. How many people seriously thought at half time we could actually turn it around? 1 in a thousand would be my guess. Yet the rendition of YNWA made alot of people start believing, and the rest they say is history. Im just hoping like everyone else , that something similiar can happen as regards to our title challenge.

[account deleted by request]

Ive seen your posts Mick and correct me if im wrong you think this may not be our year? Thats fair enough mate , but if you go into something not full heartedly you probably wont suceed. Theres always going to be doubts as to wheather we can actually win it as appose to challenging, which to be fair we haven't even challenged with a meaningfull attempt for a good few years. As most do , im referring to the CL final in Istanbul. How many people seriously thought at half time we could actually turn it around? 1 in a thousand would be my guess. Yet the rendition of YNWA made alot of people start believing, and the rest they say is history. Im just hoping like everyone else , that something similiar can happen as regards to our title challenge.

The sad thing is it feels more like WE were 3-0 up this season and have just let the mancs get the equaliser.

[bigmick]

Ah we're all hoping Thing's, nowt wrong with that mate. FWIW whatever happens from here on in, at least we have made a challenge which is what we all asked for. Also, for managing to do that the manager and them deserve a huge amount of credit.

[Thingy]

Yeah Saint it does feel like that mate , and now were seemingly on the back foot. I suppose Mick im probably being a bit greedy   if you handed a decent title challenge to me on a plate before the start of the season I most likely would of taken it, its just being this close with the second half of the season kicking in it would be a hard pill to swallow knowing how we should have an unassailable lead at this point.

[Leonmc0708]

Is it possible to "get behing the bloody team" even if you think that there's a good chance that we might not win it?

Not if your a glass half empty neg head who revels in defeats and draws its not.

Everyone must "think there is a good chance that we might not win it" - Chelsea and United have dominated the LEague landscape for the last few years and we have never been close, not when we finished 11, 21, 9 and 35 points off top spot in the last four years. There is little evidence (efore the results this season) that we would muster a challenge, but we have and we are.

Like it or not (in most people on here's case) we are in the mixer. I dont want to have to dig out peoples quotes, but I bet everyone ot a man will have begged to be "in with a shout at the turn of the year". Well HELLO - here we are mid January and if we win our next game we will return to the top of the table. If thats not in the mixer fu.ck knows what is.

You see the problem here is too many Liverpool fans think we have some kind of devine right to win games, competitions and championships. We fuc.king well dont.

The League left us behind at the start of the nineties, and the ineptitude of the heirachy at the club in failing to make hte most of our dominance of the football world in the late seventies and eighties (as United did to the nth degree when they started winning hte LEague in the early nineties) has meant we are behind our competitors in terms of both stadium (Chelse, United and Arsenal), cash flow (United, Chelsea and now lately Arsenal) and most importantly in terms of the game squad. We spend £40m one summer and people expect us to match teams who pay that for a player (United and Chelsea) or they expect us to bring players through a youth squad that hte manger has little or no control over unlike our rivals (United and Arsenal) where the respective managers are instrumental in hte development of youth football.

People need a wake up call.

In the same year that Manchester United looked to have crowned their meteoric rise with a charecteristic last minute discplay to secure a (magnificent) treble, Liverpool Football Club was in the doldrums, finishing within a win of such lumanaries as West Ham United (above us) and Derby County, LEaicester City and Middlesborough (below us) in 7th place in the PRemier LEague. This was rock bottom and the result of an unprecedented slip from grace that saw players like Sean Dundee, Oyvind LEanhardsen, Phil Babb, Stig Inge Byornebye and Bjorn Tore Kvarme playing regularaly with the Liverbird on their chest.

Despite many peoples views, the fresh ideas and continental influence of Gerard Houllier managed to drag the off field side of things into the modern day. People thought we would claim our "rightfull place at the pinnacle of English football". Wrong.

Sadly his illness clouded his judgement of players and ultimately the past decades lack of quality's influence of club funds prevented him from getting anywhere near the other top clubs. Regualarly the London sides could easily outspend us, and the lure of the capital resulted in some players who would undoubtedly have improved our chances opting for the golden paved streets. Ultimately, we where back in the reckoning off the field, but on it we where still a long wway off.

Rafael Benitez's Liverpool was so desperate for REAL financial clout that the club was sold initially to Arabs, but eventually to the (apparently) more pro active American Dollars. People once again beleived we would be right back in the reckoning. Wrong.

We are still behind the other teams in terms of squad development. There is no escaping hte matter. Thats why to get this close to the action is an acheivement in itself.

Unfortunately - Liverpool fans take too much for granted and as soon as one goal is acheived (being in the mixer in the new year) this is expected to be the norm, and complaints come in about not being 12 points clear.

Any other side (Villa would be a good example) who had been on the periphary of the top of the league for the last four years and then found htemselves at the top and with a chance to return there would (rightly) be lauded greatly. Not Liverpool. Apparently we should be pis.sing the league.

Support, beleive and be patient.

[Emerald Red]

That's a quality post that, Leon.

[Leonmc0708]

That's a quality post that, Leon.

Dont worry, these fifteen bottles of Becks will wear off by mornin and I will be back to my one line sarky posts.