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by 98-1102854529 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:48 pm
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by 98-1102854529 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:21 pm
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by LFC #1 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:40 pm
well we have been accused of bein murderers at Hillsborough as well, by scum papers and fans of clubs down south. 
Heysel was an accident,our fans were out of order yes, but bing provoked by oppsoing fans, any other set of fans would have done the same, and the stadium was a piece of ****** - it was in poor condition and wating for something like that to happen, why it was the satge of a European cup final is beyond me.
read this if you have any decency mate.
If April 15th is the saddest day in the club's history, May 29th is surely the lowest. Eighteen years ago today (May 29), 39 football fans died when a wall collapsed at the Heysel stadium in Belgium. What should have been one of the greatest nights in the club's history turned into a nightmare. Instead of leaving Brussels having seen our team lift a fifth European Cup, Liverpool supporters travelled back to England having witnessed the deaths of 38 Italians and one Belgian.
Liverpool had objected to the choice of ground to stage the final well before the friendly banter outside the stadium began to turn nasty inside. Aside from the fact that the stadium appeared to be crumbling, Liverpool's main concern was that there was to be a neutral section of the ground set aside for football fans from Belgium. The club argued that only Liverpool and Juventus should be allocated tickets. Setting aside a neutral area would only lead to both sets of fans being able to buy tickets off Belgium touts thus creating a dangerous mixed area. As history has since proved, this neutral area was soon filled with Italian supporters.
As tempers became frayed inside the ground about an hour before kick off, both sets of fans baited each other through a segregating fence made from chicken wire. After a sustained period of missiles raining down on the Reds end, some Liverpool fans charged at their Italian counterparts and as chaos took over, Juventus fans fled only for a wall blocking their escape to collapse on top of them. Thirty-nine football supporters died where they fell.
Later that night, Juventus won the European Cup 1-nil. It's a match nobody wants to remember.
Kenny Dalglish, Liverpool's greatest ever player, will never forget what happened in Belgium though.
"I can't condone the action of some Liverpool fans but it is difficult not to react when the opposing supporters are throwing missiles at you," recalls Dalglish. "The fact that fatalities might result wouldn't have occurred to the Liverpool fans when they ran across. If you have been pelted by stones the year before, and suffered badly, you are not going to accept it again. That's how the trouble started."
Dalglish admits that it wasn't until the following morning that the Liverpool players finally realised exactly what had happened inside the stadium.
"We saw the Italian fans crying, and they were banging on the side of our bus when we left the hotel," he recalls. "When we left Brussels, the Italians were angry, understandably so; 39 of their friends had died. We needed a lot of police to protect the bus. I remember well one Italian man, who had his face right up against the window where I was sitting. He was crying and screaming. You feel for anybody who loses someone in those circumstances.
"You go along to watch a game. You don't go along expecting that sort of ending, do you? Football's not that important. No game of football is worth that. Everything else pales into insignificance. Juventus fans should not have been throwing stones. Liverpool fans should not have reacted the way they did. Yet neither set of supporters could have anticipated the terrible outcome. If they had foreseen the dreadful consequences, or thought what terrible things might unfold, I'm sure the stones would never have been thrown by the Italians and that the English retaliation would never have occurred. Every single one of them, both Italian and English, must have regretted it. I'm sure they still do now."
Peter Robinson, the club's executive vice chairman at the time, had warned of the potential for disaster if the game was played at Heysel. He was unfortunately proved right. "It's a horror story that one has to live with," he says now.
May 29 is a day of remembrance for both Juventus and Liverpool supporters. Think for a minute about those who lost their lives at Heysel and pray it never happens again.
RIP 39
Heysel was an accident,our fans were out of order yes, but bing provoked by oppsoing fans, any other set of fans would have done the same, and the stadium was a piece of ****** - it was in poor condition and wating for something like that to happen, why it was the satge of a European cup final is beyond me.
read this if you have any decency mate.
If April 15th is the saddest day in the club's history, May 29th is surely the lowest. Eighteen years ago today (May 29), 39 football fans died when a wall collapsed at the Heysel stadium in Belgium. What should have been one of the greatest nights in the club's history turned into a nightmare. Instead of leaving Brussels having seen our team lift a fifth European Cup, Liverpool supporters travelled back to England having witnessed the deaths of 38 Italians and one Belgian.
Liverpool had objected to the choice of ground to stage the final well before the friendly banter outside the stadium began to turn nasty inside. Aside from the fact that the stadium appeared to be crumbling, Liverpool's main concern was that there was to be a neutral section of the ground set aside for football fans from Belgium. The club argued that only Liverpool and Juventus should be allocated tickets. Setting aside a neutral area would only lead to both sets of fans being able to buy tickets off Belgium touts thus creating a dangerous mixed area. As history has since proved, this neutral area was soon filled with Italian supporters.
As tempers became frayed inside the ground about an hour before kick off, both sets of fans baited each other through a segregating fence made from chicken wire. After a sustained period of missiles raining down on the Reds end, some Liverpool fans charged at their Italian counterparts and as chaos took over, Juventus fans fled only for a wall blocking their escape to collapse on top of them. Thirty-nine football supporters died where they fell.
Later that night, Juventus won the European Cup 1-nil. It's a match nobody wants to remember.
Kenny Dalglish, Liverpool's greatest ever player, will never forget what happened in Belgium though.
"I can't condone the action of some Liverpool fans but it is difficult not to react when the opposing supporters are throwing missiles at you," recalls Dalglish. "The fact that fatalities might result wouldn't have occurred to the Liverpool fans when they ran across. If you have been pelted by stones the year before, and suffered badly, you are not going to accept it again. That's how the trouble started."
Dalglish admits that it wasn't until the following morning that the Liverpool players finally realised exactly what had happened inside the stadium.
"We saw the Italian fans crying, and they were banging on the side of our bus when we left the hotel," he recalls. "When we left Brussels, the Italians were angry, understandably so; 39 of their friends had died. We needed a lot of police to protect the bus. I remember well one Italian man, who had his face right up against the window where I was sitting. He was crying and screaming. You feel for anybody who loses someone in those circumstances.
"You go along to watch a game. You don't go along expecting that sort of ending, do you? Football's not that important. No game of football is worth that. Everything else pales into insignificance. Juventus fans should not have been throwing stones. Liverpool fans should not have reacted the way they did. Yet neither set of supporters could have anticipated the terrible outcome. If they had foreseen the dreadful consequences, or thought what terrible things might unfold, I'm sure the stones would never have been thrown by the Italians and that the English retaliation would never have occurred. Every single one of them, both Italian and English, must have regretted it. I'm sure they still do now."
Peter Robinson, the club's executive vice chairman at the time, had warned of the potential for disaster if the game was played at Heysel. He was unfortunately proved right. "It's a horror story that one has to live with," he says now.
May 29 is a day of remembrance for both Juventus and Liverpool supporters. Think for a minute about those who lost their lives at Heysel and pray it never happens again.
RIP 39
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by LFC #1 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:50 pm
UEFA had decided that the stand behind one of the goals would be allocated to Liverpool supporters but that the end section of the stand be allocated for 'neutrals.'
Liverpool F.C objected to UEFA about the allocation, as they would do prior to Hillsborough, but their fears were ignored. This gave the potential for the two sets of rival supporters to be in the same stand separated only by an inadequate, flimsy fence, which only consisted of chicken wire.
This decision proved to be the recipe for disaster.
It transpired that the 'neutral' section was filled by mostly Italians who had bought tickets from the neutral Belgium's
Due to the close proximity the Juventus supporters began to pelt the Liverpool supporters in the adjacent section with missiles. In provocation, and maybe remembering the violence they were subjected to at the previous Final in Rome, the Liverpool supporters charged towards the Juventus fans and into the neutral section.
Fighting broke out and in panic the spectators not involved in the trouble started to flee away from the trouble and towards the opposite end of the enclosure. Unfortunately their escape was blocked by a brick wall, built to contain, which ran along the entirety of the parameter of the enclosure.
In the resulting crush, as spectators tried to scale the wall and negotiate the drop that followed, the wall collapsed under the mounting pressure.
Thirty nine people lost their lives. As with Hillsborough the poor stadium design gave no chance for the large numbers to safely evacuate.
Consequently all English Clubs were banned from European competitions for 5 years, with Liverpool receiving a further 2 year ban.
Nothing can excuse the actions of the Liverpool 'supporters', no matter how provoked, but the decision to allocate the tickets did prove to be a major contributory factor.
As with Hillsborough, the Heysel Stadium was criticised for the decrepit and unsafe facilities and it was deemed that the Stadium was totally unsuitable to host such an occasion. The Belgium authorities were criticised for their total lack of organisation (many supporters entered the ground without having to show or surrender their tickets) and it was declared that the Heysel Stadium should not be used to stage football matches. The Heysel Stadium was then primarily used for athletic meetings until being largely rebuilt and renamed to host Euro 2000.
No major inquiry was ever made into the causes of the disaster and it seems now that the causes and the circumstances have been chosen to be forgotten, only blame remains...
taken from the HJC website.
b4 you call us murderers you bluneose ******, read into the disaster and get ur facts stariaght - I a. not saying we ar completelty blameless, that would be naive, but we are no more to blame than Italian fans, and UEFA really should shoulder a lot of the blame.
Liverpool F.C objected to UEFA about the allocation, as they would do prior to Hillsborough, but their fears were ignored. This gave the potential for the two sets of rival supporters to be in the same stand separated only by an inadequate, flimsy fence, which only consisted of chicken wire.
This decision proved to be the recipe for disaster.
It transpired that the 'neutral' section was filled by mostly Italians who had bought tickets from the neutral Belgium's
Due to the close proximity the Juventus supporters began to pelt the Liverpool supporters in the adjacent section with missiles. In provocation, and maybe remembering the violence they were subjected to at the previous Final in Rome, the Liverpool supporters charged towards the Juventus fans and into the neutral section.
Fighting broke out and in panic the spectators not involved in the trouble started to flee away from the trouble and towards the opposite end of the enclosure. Unfortunately their escape was blocked by a brick wall, built to contain, which ran along the entirety of the parameter of the enclosure.
In the resulting crush, as spectators tried to scale the wall and negotiate the drop that followed, the wall collapsed under the mounting pressure.
Thirty nine people lost their lives. As with Hillsborough the poor stadium design gave no chance for the large numbers to safely evacuate.
Consequently all English Clubs were banned from European competitions for 5 years, with Liverpool receiving a further 2 year ban.
Nothing can excuse the actions of the Liverpool 'supporters', no matter how provoked, but the decision to allocate the tickets did prove to be a major contributory factor.
As with Hillsborough, the Heysel Stadium was criticised for the decrepit and unsafe facilities and it was deemed that the Stadium was totally unsuitable to host such an occasion. The Belgium authorities were criticised for their total lack of organisation (many supporters entered the ground without having to show or surrender their tickets) and it was declared that the Heysel Stadium should not be used to stage football matches. The Heysel Stadium was then primarily used for athletic meetings until being largely rebuilt and renamed to host Euro 2000.
No major inquiry was ever made into the causes of the disaster and it seems now that the causes and the circumstances have been chosen to be forgotten, only blame remains...
taken from the HJC website.
b4 you call us murderers you bluneose ******, read into the disaster and get ur facts stariaght - I a. not saying we ar completelty blameless, that would be naive, but we are no more to blame than Italian fans, and UEFA really should shoulder a lot of the blame.
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by 7_Kewell » Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:10 pm
Admin will get his ip....then lets see how funny he thinks it is when we find out where he lives
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by chiggz_likes_owen » Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:59 pm
Leave all the smashing to me, i'll break him with my own 2 arms
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by A.B. » Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:31 pm
You're an egotistic dumbass. Congratulations on your win but don't get too excited as there is a long way to go before we reach May. What happens when Graveson,Osman,Cahil and the rest of the pr!cks get injured? You will fall down the table so fast you won't know what hit you.
Run your mouth all you want but we will see who is better at the end of the season.
Run your mouth all you want but we will see who is better at the end of the season.
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by 98-1102854529 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:13 pm
the future is red haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
yea if u support arsenal haaaaaaa
this is anfield dont u mean this is anal field
full of ******
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by 100-1102639321 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:22 pm
7_Kewell wrote:Admin will get his ip....then lets see how funny he thinks it is when we find out where he lives
why what are you gonna do fly over from norway and batter him
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by A.B. » Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:25 pm
blue_santa wrote:
the future is red haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
yea if u support arsenal haaaaaaa
this is anfield dont u mean this is anal field
full of ******
Execuse me? Go pick up a dictionary and you might learn how to spell. While you're at it go back to school, it seems that foreigners can construct better sentences than you can.
You won, hat's off to you. But the next time we see you blue morons on the pitch will be at Anfield, and I can gurantee you that you will be outplayed.
Form is temporary, class is permanent
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by 100-1102639321 » Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:28 pm
A.B. wrote:blue_santa wrote::laugh:
the future is red haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
yea if u support arsenal haaaaaaa
this is anfield dont u mean this is anal field
full of ******
Execuse me? Go pick up a dictionary and you might learn how to spell. While you're at it go back to school, it seems that foreigners can construct better sentences than you can.
You won, hat's off to you. But the next time we see you blue morons on the pitch will be at Anfield, and I can gurantee you that you will be outplayed.
Form is temporary, class is permanent
form is temporary, class is permanent, nothing down for liverpool then
i hate all the lfc fans who cant accept the state the club is in. we are in need of somehelp, we are doing rubbish. and we have a ****** poor squad
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