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[steven-lfc-forever]

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liverpool are , and rafa has to go....stop all this '  in rafa we trust' ....look at the premiership table and are results...

he is a great european manager no doubt.....but he just cant hack it in the premier league

josemi, traore, morientes, crouch and some others should be took out behind the barn and shot..... poor players, and you cant continually stick up for them

rafa has to go at the end of the season, we wont even know what 4th smells like we will be that far away from it....

i am disgusted...totally disgusted with him and the players...take away the champions league...what has rafa done for us ? bought a load of , who he continuall plays when there are better players i.e traore with warnock


i dont care what abuse you give me, but in your heart of hearts you know im true......we wont finish 4th

[Espionage]

Go and support Chelsea, or maybe you could shut up and take this like a man........

Everyone is disspointed, but i hardly think that Rafa can be blamed for this, i knew that there would be one retard that would make a thread like this 

[The_Rock]

Let me state, I believe Rafa is the best manager we can have at the moment..... but he is not perfect.

-He did not strengthed the areas we needed the most (wingers & defenders)....He didn't need to buy reina & sissoko. I mean we had ample cover in those areas...
- Why did he have to buy crouch when he already had morientes...aren't both of them pretty much the same ...slow target man who won't score 20 goals a season.....
-Don't get me started on his treatment of my 2 fav players (baros & cisse).....
-His insistance on playing a system when we don't have players who can make it work.

[bigmick]

In all fairness to you I think you are wrong but posts such as this one are becoming impossible to completely ridicule. Nobody has a blank cheque in terms of time and clearly there will come a point sooner or later where unless we dramatically improve, the balance of opinion will tip against the manager and some of the players.
For my part, I think we have the right man but he must find within himself some humility to go with his astute tactical knowledge. I think the drawing board is overdue a revisit in terms of the way we approach games in the Premiership and a move towards a more 'English' style of play.
By 'English' I mean football of a more physical, high tempo variety. I mean the acceptance that in the Premier League you have to fight to win the right to play. Until this battle is won, the players with more expressive talents will never be able to flourish. I also mean that we have to play a compact 4-4-2.
The great Spanish experiment in terms of tactical approach is not quite at it's end but it must surely be on it's last legs. If we haven't got the players to make it work, then don't play it until we have. If the players don't understand it then don't play it until they do. Ultimately we haven't got to reinvent the wheel, we've just got to win some football matches. I don't know about on the continent, but in England you do that by grafting to get bodies behind the ball. You do it by defending properly, with comittment and organisation. When you've got the ball you work hard to keep it, when you do lose it you close down in packs and work your nuts off. When you get forward you comitt midfielders and strikers into the box, and if you can sprinkle in a bit of quality aswell you'll win more than most. That's how we do it over here, it's always been that way.

[Santa]

...rafa has to go at the end of the season, we wont even know what 4th smells like we will be that far away from it...i am disgusted...totally disgusted with him and the players

hi moaner...tell us what have you done other than to moan and p*ss on this forum everytime we've got a bad result? any constructive post to share? 

Yes we mostly wished Rafa could be more adventurous in the league and some of his players have not yet set the league on fire. He knows (and the board knows) that we are still far from competing for the league title and not having funds to compete with Chelsea (who has) and Manure is a big problem for us. But to ask for Rafa's head after a loss to Fulham shows what you know about football. Any replacement you have in mind? or you rather be in the bluenose's shoes, finished 4th and get bombed out of European competition at the first time asking?

Fans will stand behind his team in good and bad time and you seems all like a champagne Charlie hoping to brighten up your weekends or to boost your ego with a win 

...take away the champions league...what has rafa done for us ?

what the fv*ck do you want? Take away the CL are you out of your fvckin mind? Chelsea would have give an arm and a leg to even be competing in the final, let alone winning it, and Moanrinho have spent 5x more than Rafa and have an open cheque book for more. Glory hunter like you are adviced to look at that direction.

[Santa]

Let me state, I believe Rafa is the best manager we can have at the moment..... but he is not perfect.

-He did not strengthed the areas we needed the most (wingers & defenders)....He didn't need to buy reina & sissoko. I mean we had ample cover in those areas...
- Why did he have to buy crouch when he already had morientes...aren't both of them pretty much the same ...slow target man who won't score 20 goals a season.....
-Don't get me started on his treatment of my 2 fav players (baros & cisse).....
-His insistance on playing a system when we don't have players who can make it work.

mostly spot on...and he should get rid of Troare & Josemi asap but I won't mind having Sisoko on our side. Crouch could be a costly mistake... 

[andy_g]

and its OUR results, ok? not ARE results.

[BOODIDDY]

pure and simple not good enough!

Rafa is class in europe but he needs to swallow his pride fast and admit that the system doesn't work in the prem. We need tempo and aggressive players who ain't fancy dans. Moro, Cisse, Garcia the main culprits.

Currently offshore not seen match but i know that the performance was poor and typical of us last season. We cant string three wins together and our season is geared to defending the cl cup.

We fans rafa want domestic success sort it out mate and also parry is getting to much like kenyon always speaking out get back to being silent and back the manager with hard earned cash.

Finally, we need a bitish influence in the coaching dept not alex bloody miller.

[teamleader1]

...rafa has to go at the end of the season, we wont even know what 4th smells like we will be that far away from it...i am disgusted...totally disgusted with him and the players

hi moaner...tell us what have you done other than to moan and p*ss on this forum everytime we've got a bad result? any constructive post to share? 

Yes we mostly wished Rafa could be more adventurous in the league and some of his players have not yet set the league on fire. He knows (and the board knows) that we are still far from competing for the league title and not having funds to compete with Chelsea (who has) and Manure is a big problem for us. But to ask for Rafa's head after a loss to Fulham shows what you know about football. Any replacement you have in mind? or you rather be in the bluenose's shoes, finished 4th and get bombed out of European competition at the first time asking?

Fans will stand behind his team in good and bad time and you seems all like a champagne Charlie hoping to brighten up your weekends or to boost your ego with a win 

...take away the champions league...what has rafa done for us ?

what the fv*ck do you want? Take away the CL are you out of your fvckin mind? Chelsea would have give an arm and a leg to even be competing in the final, let alone winning it, and Moanrinho have spent 5x more than Rafa and have an open cheque book for more. Glory hunter like you are adviced to look at that direction.

Thanks Santa
saved me lot of typing

totaly agree m8

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[The_Rock]

We fans rafa want domestic success sort it out mate and also parry is getting to much like kenyon always speaking out get back to being silent and back the manager with hard earned cash.

I have seen & heard more of parry this season than all the other seasons added up together 

[crazyhorse]

I think given time Raffa will deliver domestic success. People who are demanding his head now are really not considering the facts as they stand.

As a previous post said, Benitez is the best we can have at the moment. I see no other available managers to take his place. He is a very cerebal man, a deep thinker and a stubburn git - not the best combination. He has had only one full season in British football and he has delivered a european cup - that is one hell of an achievement which i think earns him the right to expect a decent length of time to build a squad and adapt to the tactics in the English league - far different from those in Spain.

To my mind the only major mistake he has made this season is not buying us a quality centre forward who will score 15-20 league goals every year. What we have at the moment will not get us that, and i also think the goalkeeper is suspect considering Chris Kirkland has got himself fit and is playing well for WBA.

We have an excellent basis for a championship winning squad - but are five years minimum behind chelsea (although not so much for Manure and Arsenal). We are the champions of Europe, one bad result does not make raffa a bad manager.

We as a club have a tradition of which the board should be proud for not changing manager on a whim - i hope that continues.

[redsince2001]

any rafa supporter out there pls answer the following------
1) why did he start with players like moro and kewell who havnt had a game 4 a lon time and r clearly out of form?
2)why play cisse on the right(in the 2nd half) when he has got 2 goals in 2 games playing as a striker??
3)why buy crouch when we already hav a player of his type in moro?
4)why spend 20m on  crouch,reina and sisoko when needed wingers and a central defender?
5)why sell baros?

[crazyhorse]

any rafa supporter out there pls answer the following------
1) why did he start with players like moro and kewell who havnt had a game 4 a lon time and r clearly out of form?
2)why play cisse on the right(in the 2nd half) when he has got 2 goals in 2 games playing as a striker??
3)why buy crouch when we already hav a player of his type in moro?
4)why spend 20m on  crouch,reina and sisoko when needed wingers and a central defender?
5)why sell baros?

1) Kewell and Moro are world class players. They need games to build fitness and form - i agree that today was not the day to start both of them. They should have been on the bench.
2) No idea, If he plays anywhere it should be up the middle. having said that i do not think he is clinical enough a finisher to be a force over a consistant period of time.
3) Moro is not the same type of player as Crouch. Being tall does not make you similar.
4) No idea about that one.... personally i think that two were a waste of money and one was vastly over valued on the back of a few goals for a football team.
5) Because he was s   h   i   t   e   !