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Postby JBG » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:15 am

Jerzy wrote:I agree, the US only recognise the United Nations when they see fit, as soon as something like the "war on terror" is started they tell the UN to get lost.

That, sadly, is correct. The UN is little more than a talking shop which is badly need of radical reform if it is not to go the way of the League of Nations.

It is beholden to the US who don't pay a whole lot of attention to it. The US is the UN's biggest creditor, owing it billions in unpaid rates, and the US only goes to the UN when it attempts to whip up support for its actions abroad. However, as Iraq showed, when the UN didn't give the US wanted, the US ploughed their own furrow, followed closely by Britain, Spain and Poland.

It has become increasingly irrelevant since George W. Bush decided to end America's historical policy of "never firing the first shot" and largely from now on the US will pretty much by pass the UN whenever it feels that its in its interests to do so.

Leaving the US aside, the UN lost all credibility over Rwanda, Bosnia and Kosovo, and the current tragedy in Dharfur will not be prevented by the UN as it cowardly refuses to class what is happening there as genocide because if it is deemed genocide, the UN is bound by its own articles to intervene.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:51 pm

Talking of genocide :-
The French parliament has adopted a bill making it a crime to deny that Armenians suffered "genocide" at the hands of the Turks, infuriating Turkey.

Under the bill, anyone denying genocide could be punished with a one-year prison term and 45,000-euro (£30,000) fine - the same punishment that is imposed for denying the Nazi Holocaust.

Turkey has responded :-

Wednesday saw Turkish politicians consider a law that would make it a crime to deny that French killings in Algeria in 1945 were genocide.

The worlds politicians :D  they are worse than children!

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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:32 pm

Jerzy wrote:the US only recognise the United Nations when they see fit,

???

Just a sample of other countries that have ignored the UN in the last decade

AFGHANISTAN
AUSTRALIA
BELARUS
BURMA
BURUNDI
CAMBODIA
CHINA
CONGO
CUBA
EGYPT
EQUITORIAL GUINEA
FRANCE
HAITI
IRAN
IRAQ
ISREAL
LAOS
LIBYA
NICARAGUA
NORTH KOREA
PAKISTAN
RUSSIA
RWANDA
SOMALIA
SUDAN
SYRIA
TAJIKISTAN
TURMENISTAN
UGANDA
YUGOSLAVIA
VIETNAM
ZIMBABWE

When you all get tired of beating your meat over the US, there's plenty more to choose from .
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Postby 74-1160487249 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:42 pm

Thanks for your insight, but I do know more than one nation uses the UN to their own interests, but how many of these countries have launched an illegal war with no evidence of weapons of mass destruction?

How many of those countries cry to UN when another country makes arms or finds new technology?

Now either I'm living in space or the only country to do that was the US.
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:53 pm

Jerzy wrote:Thanks for your insight,

Don't thank me , BUY me something .
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Postby 74-1160487249 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:55 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Jerzy wrote:Thanks for your insight,

Don't thank me , BUY me something .

I can buy you a night in a hospital, if you want that of course? It's my best offer.  :D

You still have answered my question, I would like it answered as you and JBG know far more than I do on this topic.
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:12 pm

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woof woof ! wrote:
Jerzy wrote:Thanks for your insight,

Don't thank me , BUY me something .

I can buy you a night in a hospital, if you want that of course? It's my best offer.  :D

You still have answered my question, I would like it answered as you and JBG know far more than I do on this topic.

A night in hospital ?   :laugh:  I'd love it , but only if you agree to drive me there , seeing you in the flesh would surely make my day   :nod

As for your question , it's pretty facile . Maybe JBG can be a'rsed to entertain it .
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Postby 74-1160487249 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:22 pm

It was just a light hearted joke, sure I'll drive you and we can discuss Mexican politics and Mexican poverty. Still want to see me in person now?  :laugh:

I'll conduct some research into it.
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:47 pm

Jerzy wrote:It was just a light hearted joke, sure I'll drive you and we can discuss Mexican politics and Mexican poverty. Still want to see me in person now?  :laugh:

F'uck , so your plan is to "bore Woof to death" , can I at least get a burrito and a shot of Jose Cuervo ?
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Postby 74-1160487249 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:56 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Jerzy wrote:It was just a light hearted joke, sure I'll drive you and we can discuss Mexican politics and Mexican poverty. Still want to see me in person now?  :laugh:

F'uck , so your plan is to "bore Woof to death" , can I at least get a burrito and a shot of Jose Cuervo ?

:laugh:

Don't you want Rompope? That's one of the nicest things you can drink.
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:06 pm

When I want a drink with eggs in it , I'll give anyone (including you) permission to shoot me.   :kungfu:
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Postby 74-1160487249 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:15 pm

:D
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Postby JBG » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:20 pm

How did I get dragged into this?
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Postby 74-1160487249 » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:25 pm

Into what?
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:26 pm

JBG wrote:How did I get dragged into this?

:laugh:  Ask yo lil mehican fren' .   :D
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