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[babu]

more conspiracy theories.....     

It's actually a fact based documentary, which doesn't make any assumptions about the events of 9/11.

By not even watching it how is your uninformed opinion even valid?

Listen, no one wants to click on a link with no explanation. Before you get upset with people for not giving informed comments, perhaps you could have spent five minutes typing an introduction.

I mean what do you expect with a one line opening post and a link? I am surprised so many people clicked on it as it is.

An if it is a about 9/11, my next question is in what way is this related to football or LFC?

[Lando_Griffin]

more conspiracy theories.....     

It's actually a fact based documentary, which doesn't make any assumptions about the events of 9/11.

By not even watching it how is your uninformed opinion even valid?

Listen, no one wants to click on a link with no explanation. Before you get upset with people for not giving informed comments, perhaps you could have spent five minutes typing an introduction.

I mean what do you expect with a one line opening post and a link? I am surprised so many people clicked on it as it is.

An if it is a about 9/11, my next question is in what way is this related to football or LFC?

And MY next question to "adayinthelife" would be:

"Why don't you just f*ck off?"

[daxy1]

it was good that.........

[112-1077774096]

i watched it and its actually very interesting

[kazza 1]

I have just spent the last hour watching this. And I agree with peewee. It was very interesting.

[112-1077774096]

yeah kazza, its not the first thing like this that i have watched, they are either an amazing set of coincidences or someone is telling massive lies.

i know some conspiracy theories are untrue but the 9/11 thing i genuinely believe that the governmet played a very large part in it

[babu]

righto i gonna have a look when i get home. I stand by my comment that people are reluctant on clicking on links without explanation.

[andy_g]

i know some conspiracy theories are untrue but the 9/11 thing i genuinely believe that the governmet played a very large part in it

you should have a chat with your mate karim about that, you've got a lot in common. 

[kazza 1]

Its the 1st time I have watched anything like this. I tend to stay away from things like that. After watching the beheading of an american solider and not sleeping for months after it, things like that dwell in my mind. But its just a bit weird that a few goverment officials where asked not to fly. 11 foreign countries warned that attacks where immament and they did nothing about it. Many people have had gags placed on them. And the same terrorist name kept coming up and nothing was done. Its all a bit to much of a coincidence.
I have very little faith in todays British goverment and none whatsoever in the American goverment, with it's we rule the world attitude (and I mean the goverment, not the people in general). George Bush was just taking over from where his father left off. Was GB sr not the 1st to go to war with Iraq?
It makes you wonder..... if they knew so much about 9/11, how much did our goverment know about the London bombings? I'm not saying that they knew they where gonna happen, but they must have known that after 9/11, London was gonna be next.....
Its a scary thought that people in power can just sit back and let things like 9/11 happen and put innocent people's lives at risk and not loose sleep over it.

[112-1077774096]

i know some conspiracy theories are untrue but the 9/11 thing i genuinely believe that the governmet played a very large part in it

you should have a chat with your mate karim about that, you've got a lot in common. 

how is your boyfriend these days

[andy_g]

if that was meant to offend and hurt me...


...its succeeded

   

[112-1077774096]

[adayinthelife]

Most people know who David Shayler is, right?

Well for those who don't he was an MI5 agent who was brave enough to speak the truth and look what happned to him...

http://www.thememoryhole.org/spy/shayler/welcome.htm

He obviously knows plenty about what goes on behind the scenes, and here is what he said about 9/11...

London has bombed itself before
Attack Was 'Coup de'tat,' Buildings Were Demolished By Controlled Demolitions

Former MI5 agent David Shayler, who previously blew the whistle on the British government paying Al Qaeda $200,000 to carry out political assassinations, has gone on the record with his conviction that 9/11 was an inside job meant to bring about a permanent state of emergency in America and pave the way for the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and ultimately Iran and Syria.

David Shayler joined MI5 in October 1991 and worked there for five years. He started at F Branch (counter-subversion) in January 1992, and worked in T Branch (Irish terrorism) from August 1992 until October 1994. He left the organization in 1996.

Shayler appeared on The Alex Jones Show to kick off what will be a wider public campaign to educate the public on 9/11 issues and government corruption.

Shayler again risked jail by speaking out. The British government has a legal gag preventing him from speaking about his work during his MI5 tenure. Since what Shayler discussed was already on the public record (a consequence of which was his imprisonment on two separate occasions), he now feels safer in stepping back out into the limelight.

Shayler delved into his past investigations and the evidence that led some within MI5 to conclude that the Israelis bombed their own London embassy in July 1994. Shayler said that the Israelis framed two Palestinians who remain in jail to this day.

"The same thing has happened with two Palestinians who were convicted of conspiracy to cause the attack on the Israeli Embassy in Britain in 1994 but MI5 didn't disclose two documents which indicated their innocence. One document indicated another group had carried out the attack and the other document was the belief of an MI5 officer that the Israelis had actually bombed their own embassy and allowed a controlled explosion to try and get better security and these documents were never shown to the trial judge let alone the defense."

Shayler said that his suspicions were first aroused about 9/11 when the usual route of crime scene investigation was impeded when the debris was immediately seized and shipped off to China.

"It is in fact a criminal offence to interfere with a crime scene and yet in the case of 9/11 all the metal from the buildings is shipped out to China, there are no forensications done on that metal. Now that to me suggests they never wanted anybody to look at that metal because it was not going to provide the evidence they wanted to show people that it was Al-Qaeda."

Shayler then went on to dismiss the incompetence theory.

"The more I look at it, you realize that it's not incompetence. There were FBI officers all over the country, Colleen Rowley is obviously the one who managed to get a congressional hearing, but there was plenty of evidence certainly."

"There are so many questions that need to be answered, protocols being overridden within national defense, people actively being stopped from carrying out investigations. This wasn't an accident, they were aware there was intelligence indicating those kind of attacks, there were FBI intercepts saying it in the days before the attacks. When you look at it all, that is a big big intelligence picture and yet these people were crucially stopped from doing their jobs, stopped from trying to protect the American people."

Shayler elaborated by saying the evidence suggests the attack was originally meant to be much wider in scope and was an attempt at a violent coup intended to decapitate the entire government as a pretext for martial law.

"So you're looking at a situation in which you almost have a coup de'tat because you've got to bear in mind that there were weapons discovered on planes that didn't take off on 9/11. Now people have obviously postulated that they were going perhaps to attack the White House, Capitol Hill. That looks to me like an attempt to destroy American government and declare a state of emergency, in fact a coup de'tat, a violent coup de'tat."

"There are so very many questions about this and you realize again that none of the enquiries ever get to the bottom of any of these things, they don't take all the evidence, they don't often take any evidence under oath when they should be taking it under oath."

Shayler was forthright in his assertion that the attack was planned and executed within the jurisdiction of the military-industrial complex.

"They let it happen, they made it happen to create a trigger to be able to allow the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq and of course what they're trying to do now is the same thing with the invasion of Iran and Syria."

Shayler ended by questioning the highly suspicious nature of the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7, the first buildings in history, all in the same day, to collapse from so-called fire damage alone.

"I've seen the results of terroristic explosions and so on and no terrorist explosion has ever brought down a building. When the IRA put something like a thousands tonnes of home-made explosives in front of the Baltic Exchange building in Bishopsgate and let off the bomb, all the glass came out, the building shook a bit but there was no question about the building falling down and it doesn't obey the laws of physics for buildings to fall down in the way the World Trade Center came down. So you have the comparison of the two, Building 7 compared with the north and south towers coming down and those two things are exactly the same, they were demolished."


Here is a short video of him questioning what really happened on 9/11...

http://video.google.com/videopl....shayler

Part 2:
http://video.google.com/videopl....shayler