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[tubby]

Innocent is the verdict, of murder anyway. She and her fella are to be freed. She was however guilty of slander but she got 3 years for that which is time already served.

Listening to some of the things the police over there done during the case is shocking. They allegedly destroyed 3 computers which were full of pictures showing Knox and Kercher together as friends. They also used some bra of Kercher's to try and place Knox at the scene via DNA but didn't bag it till some 45 days.

All things considered, this case, Berlusconi, the match fixing, italy has to be the most twisted corrupt nation in the EU today.

[neil]

pakistan mate

just seen EU bit, Pakistan are not in the EU tubby

[tubby]

pakistan mate

just seen EU bit,

Yeah they are right up there too mate.

I wonder now though if these 2 didn't kill her who did? That Rudy Guede guy was jailed for assisting in the murder with others but if it wasn't Knox and that Solecitto then who was it?

I think the prosecution can appeal to take it to the supreme court although I imagine by the time that happens Knox will be long gone so they will have to request extradition from the US.

[7_Kewell]

gota feel sorry for the family of the poor girl murdered...

[Reg]

I remember hearing 12 months ago that the DNA testing had been handled very badly and wouldn't have stood up in a british court and thinking the defense was doomed.

[laza]

gota feel sorry for the family of the poor girl murdered...

Amen to that

Talk about going to hell for a second time and now having to stay there

[lakes10]

Corruption is everywhere, not just Italy. Its a well known fact if you have friends in the right places, you can pretty much get away with anything. Just ask the McCanns.

lol take care in what you say about the "m" or your post will not stay up long lol

[Reg]

Where've you been Lakesie?

[tubby]

Lakes how is the spider extermination job coming along?

[lakes10]

Lakes how is the spider extermination job coming along?

Killed all the bad ones just got the normal garden spiders now.

this one is living outside my front door right now, its eatinf all the daddy long legs lol

[lakes10]

Where've you been Lakesie?

so much work mate and going to games (not just our games).
missed being on here, had the last few days off to write some courses.........but ended up on here lol.

[tubby]

Lakes how is the spider extermination job coming along?

Killed all the bad ones just got the normal garden spiders now.

this one is living outside my front door right now, its eatinf all the daddy long legs lol

That doesn't look like a normal spider mate. Look at the size of that thing.

[lakes10]

lol its a big one mate but thats due to it eat so much lol. I wouls not like to step on it if it got indoors....would make one hell of a mess lol.

[lakes10]

from the bbc

10 factors that helped Knox's case

1. Reasonable doubt

Amanda Knox's lawyers managed to instil reasonable doubt in the jurors' minds over the quality of testing of the bra clasp belonging to Meredith Kercher - which it was claimed had Raffaele Sollecito's DNA on it - and the knife that prosecutors argued was the murder weapon. The prosecution maintained Knox's DNA was on the handle of the kitchen knife, with Ms Kercher's DNA on the blade. The defence claimed that the amount of Meredith Kercher's DNA on the blade was too small to test. An independent review disputed the prosecution's claims.

2. Crime scene errors

A few police crime scene errors, such as contaminated samples, lost evidence and disputed procedures, were successfully portrayed as generalised incompetence. An independent review raised doubt over the attribution of some of the DNA traces, which were collected from the crime scene 46 days after the murder.

3. Lack of proof

There was no convincing proof that Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were actually in the room when Meredith Kercher died. Even the presence of Amanda Knox's blood and footprints in the house were successfully explained away. Her defence claimed that Knox's blood could have been there because she was a resident at the farm house on Pergola Road. The evidence of Rudy Guede against Knox was also confusing. Guede, who is serving a prison sentence for sexual assault and murder, said that he heard her voice at the scene but didn't see her face.

4. Motive

There was no credible motive for the murder. The prosecution stuck doggedly to the sex-game-gone-wrong explanation even though their own medical examiner said there was no evidence of rape in the days following the murder. An alternative motive, involving robbery, gained traction as the case rolled on, based on the unexplained disappearance of Meredith Kercher's 200 euro rent money.

5. Unreliable witness

One of the key witnesses at the original trial, a homeless man called Antonio Curatolo, publicly admitted to being a heroin addict, undermining his observations that he saw Knox acting suspiciously by the scene of the crime on the night of the murder in November 2007.

6. Character
Knox claimed that some of the evidence put forward against her - stories about her strange behaviour after she was arrested and the prosecution's focus on her sexuality - was no more than an attempt to demonise her to cover up for a weak case.

7. PR campaign

Knox's family hired a Seattle public relations specialist, David Marriot, who for months repeatedly plugged the line: "Amanda will get out, it's a done deal." This created a self-propagating media frenzy, which - in the end - helped convince a largely sceptical Italian media.

8. Supporters' presence

The massive presence of friends and family in Perugia in support fuelled the "Amanda is innocent" campaign. Italians have claimed that because Knox is American, the case has been handled differently, so as not to offend the US.

9. Appeals process

The Italian appeals process offers more guarantees to defendants than any other legal system in the world, whereby only the weakest evidence is treated, not the whole case. Knox's team only had to attack the DNA evidence against her to undermine the whole edifice of the original trial. Italy has one of lowest prison populations in the world because of its lenient appeals process.

10. Favourable political climate

Silvio Berlusconi's government vowed to tame his country's fiercely independent system of magistrates - one that had been bolstered to fight the mafia. The more the government shows the magistracy to be incompetent the better for Mr Berlusconi. The ministry of justice is poised to investigate what went wrong.





going by that 678910.........its clear the bbc think she got off with murder lol

[neil]

I do wonder why they both turned off their mobiles phones during the time the murder was committed, in Knoxs' case the first time she had actually turned her phone off since being in the country, 12 months I think??