World cup 2018

International Football/Football World Wide - General Discussion

Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:02 pm

Normal time should have finished 2-2 when you take the two goals France were gifted by an inept referee out of the equation ,what use is VAR if it fails to pick up some twat throwing himself to the floor and an unavoidable ball to hand incident ?  :glare: Roy Keane was bang on the money when he branded those decisions disgusting.

I now have to spend the next few weeks pretending to the wife that I'm happy for her and her compatriots and force myself to endure a celebratory party thrown in honor to her countrymen  :(
Image
User avatar
RED BEERGOGGLES
>> LFC Elite Member <<
 
Posts: 8237
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:03 pm
Location: Liverpool

Postby kazza » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:38 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:02 pm wrote:Normal time should have finished 2-2 when you take the two goals France were gifted by an inept referee out of the equation ,what use is VAR if it fails to pick up some ***** throwing himself to the floor and an unavoidable ball to hand incident ?  :glare: Roy Keane was bang on the money when he branded those decisions disgusting.

I now have to spend the next few weeks pretending to the wife that I'm happy for her and her compatriots and force myself to endure a celebratory party thrown in honor to her countrymen  :(

:laugh:
User avatar
kazza
>> LFC Elite Member <<
 
Posts: 4395
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Third rock from the sun

Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:22 pm

kazza » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:38 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:02 pm wrote:Normal time should have finished 2-2 when you take the two goals France were gifted by an inept referee out of the equation ,what use is VAR if it fails to pick up some ***** throwing himself to the floor and an unavoidable ball to hand incident ?  :glare: Roy Keane was bang on the money when he branded those decisions disgusting.

I now have to spend the next few weeks pretending to the wife that I'm happy for her and her compatriots and force myself to endure a celebratory party thrown in honor to her countrymen  :(

:laugh:


Only so many wine and cheese soirees a man can stomach and I detest Brie. So should I tell her ?.......... Should I fuck !!!!!  :D
Image
User avatar
RED BEERGOGGLES
>> LFC Elite Member <<
 
Posts: 8237
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:03 pm
Location: Liverpool

Postby Reg » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:07 am

I don't understand why VAR's introduction in football has been so traumatic when rugby, cricket and tennis have been smooth transitions, unless of course the referees are fckuing idiots. That first goal/free kick was a joke. The ref made a bad decision, goes to see it on VAR and makes the same bad decision a second time. So what's the point of having VAR. The value of VAR is having a 4th official in the stand, isolated from the emotion of the players and fans who looks at the replay in isolation and gives the ref his opinion. The ref has the final say however as in rugby, the ref and 4th official are usually end in agreement. So I am 100% for VAR but FIFA/UEFA have as usual demonstrated complete incompetence in how it is to be used.
User avatar
Reg
>> LFC Elite Member <<
 
Posts: 11901
Joined: Sat May 20, 2006 12:24 am
Location: Singapore

Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:20 pm

Reg » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:07 am wrote:I don't understand why VAR's introduction in football has been so traumatic when rugby, cricket and tennis have been smooth transitions, unless of course the referees are fckuing idiots. That first goal/free kick was a joke. The ref made a bad decision, goes to see it on VAR and makes the same bad decision a second time. So what's the point of having VAR. The value of VAR is having a 4th official in the stand, isolated from the emotion of the players and fans who looks at the replay in isolation and gives the ref his opinion. The ref has the final say however as in rugby, the ref and 4th official are usually end in agreement. So I am 100% for VAR but FIFA/UEFA have as usual demonstrated complete incompetence in how it is to be used.


If anything the World Cup just pointed out the glaring deficiencies in the VAR process ,Croatia players never remonstrated with the officials for the French blurts ridiculous dive so no VAR was called on ,yet French players surrounded and baited the ref for theirs so it was subsequently afforded. If VAR is to be utilized to its maximum effect all disputed decisions or those that lead to a position of advantage 'if given' should be subject to the process,until then its just another case of FIFA using the glitches that exist in a flawed system to suit their own agenda.
Image
User avatar
RED BEERGOGGLES
>> LFC Elite Member <<
 
Posts: 8237
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:03 pm
Location: Liverpool

Postby kazza » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:47 am

Reg » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:07 am wrote:I don't understand why VAR's introduction in football has been so traumatic when rugby, cricket and tennis have been smooth transitions, unless of course the referees are fckuing idiots. That first goal/free kick was a joke. The ref made a bad decision, goes to see it on VAR and makes the same bad decision a second time. So what's the point of having VAR. The value of VAR is having a 4th official in the stand, isolated from the emotion of the players and fans who looks at the replay in isolation and gives the ref his opinion. The ref has the final say however as in rugby, the ref and 4th official are usually end in agreement. So I am 100% for VAR but FIFA/UEFA have as usual demonstrated complete incompetence in how it is to be used.

The problem with the referee checking his own decision is ego may come into it aside from the things you mention, especially if the players were winding the ref up. Players scream and shout after bad decisions and probably call the ref an idiot, so that may influence him if he had to reverse his own call. On the other hand, another person in a quiet room watching a tv screen may verify contact but unless on the field cannot really tell if the contact was enough to make a difference. Not an easy thing for FIFA and at some point they may work out the bugs but it is a work in progress.
User avatar
kazza
>> LFC Elite Member <<
 
Posts: 4395
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:06 pm
Location: Third rock from the sun

Postby redshade » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:04 pm

With Sancho, Odoi and co Englands future looks promising.
redshade
LFC Guru Member
 
Posts: 4167
Joined: Thu May 21, 2015 5:07 pm

Previous

Return to Football World Wide - General Discussion

 


  • Related topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

  • Advertisement
cron
Online Shop Builder Sell online and/or ePOS Till System sell in-store ShopTill-e provides you everything you need... With ShopTill-e you can sell everywhere it's a true Multichannel Retailing system!