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by **stmichael** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:39 pm

Please scrap "friendly internationals".

Last night's debacle was an absolute joke. Martin Jol, Jamie Redknapp and even Alan Hansen seemed lost for words at half time because there was so little incident to talk about.

"great time for experimenting" remigius says. Now if you call experimenting playing a striker on his debut as a right winger for about 30mins then i would sure like to know what he would do if he was NOT experimenting. Why take Rooney off and leave Owen up on his own? He quite clearly CANNOT play up front on his own.

The game from the start was crying out for the following line-up.

SWP...Gerrard..Lampard..Downing

.......Rooney....Johnson

Why didnt he try it? I actually felt sorry for Johnson and Downing in the end.

What amazed me and is actually beginning now to scare me a little is the fact that captain marvel and Sven both thought we did well.

Now as Alan Hansen said i defy anyone to learn anything from that game.

When Sven was asked what he learnt from that game he replied "erm erm Yes Shaun Wright Phillips" what about SWP sven

We already know the guy is quality. All we found out last night was that he tried too hard and fluffed a few chances possibly due to the fact he may even think Sven doenst have the confidence in him to play him wide right and leave his lover boy becks out of the team.

Beckham was asked "do you think holland kept the ball a little better than england" to which he replied " no i think they like to get it down give it to their midfield and go from there". Now would like to tell me what the hell he is on about ? My girlfriend turned to me and said what's that mean and i must say i was lost for words, even she said we were rubbish.

Now i wouldn't be saying all this but for one reason regardless of perfromance last night, why couldn't both Sven and Beckham come out and say " Tonight we were shocking, we created nothing, did nothing, and basically bored the fans to tears.

Sven and Becks, I'm afraid your time has come.

by **stmichael** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:22 pm

Oh yeah another thing. Martin Jol's pundit work, the guy cracks me up. The way he uses ' the ' infront of his players names ' I would not like to see the Defoe on the right wing ''. Absolutely priceless. The only bright point in a otherwise dire night.

by **stapo1000** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:39 pm

erikson is a bad manager. i'd say england would be the best team in thed world wit a good manager

by **LFC #1** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:56 am

nah not quite Stapo. no one will ever eclipse Brazil, just keep churning out absolutley brilliant players.

by **dawson99** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:39 pm

we have the players, what we need is someone with passion for the game and the national side. ot a straight laced secretary shagging swede. sorry but sven will he leave?

by **Big Niall** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:13 pm

I'm not slagging England but you do not have the players to win. Every tournament you are in, the quality teams play you off the pitch and England are starved of posession as the premiership is about running non stop.

Beckham has never been more than a great crosser/free kick taker and I don't know why Ericcson is rated.

England should make it to the quarters.

by **stmichael** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:19 pm

Big Niall wrote:I'm not slagging England but you do not have the players to win. Every tournament you are in, the quality teams play you off the pitch and England are starved of posession as the premiership is about running non stop.

Beckham has never been more than a great crosser/free kick taker and I don't know why Ericcson is rated.

England should make it to the quarters.

the thing is though, we do have the players. i said a while back that our current squad of players would be hitting their peak in 2006. the problem is that ericksson so inept in terms of his tactics that he'll never get the best out of players.

what other country in the world can boast of centre halves of the quality of ferdinand, campbell, terry, woodgate, king etc?

is there a better left back in the world than ashley cole right now?

gerrard and lampard should be an awesome midfield combination.

we have arguably the world's best teenager.

the problem is the manager and the constant attempt to fit a system around david beckham.

by **dawson99** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:36 pm

throughout the field we have the best i would say (well, potentially the best if used right). we have the best defenders, should have the best midfield and our strikers arent bad either. what we need is a manager who cares.

by **stapo1000** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:20 pm

england have best midfield and defence in the world. tthey have a v. good forward line and decent keeper. shouldn't be loosing to the likes of portugal and also erikson will have to drop beckham before wc 2006

by **JBG** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:17 pm

Certain English players are wildly over hyped by the London media and this is always painfully obvious in international games.

Spain v. England at the end of last year? You'd swear some of the English players were kicking a hot water bottle around the pitch.

by **A.B.** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:41 am

stapo1000 wrote:england have best midfield and defence in the world. tthey have a v. good forward line and decent keeper. shouldn't be loosing to the likes of portugal and also erikson will have to drop beckham before wc 2006

Best midfield? I disagree. Beckham is past it, I don't know why he is still the captain after countless penalties he's missed that have cost England a hell of a lot. Lampard and Gerrard don't seem to play well together side by side.

by **stapo1000** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:04 pm

A.B. wrote:
stapo1000 wrote:england have best midfield and defence in the world. tthey have a v. good forward line and decent keeper. shouldn't be loosing to the likes of portugal and also erikson will have to drop beckham before wc 2006

Best midfield? I disagree. Beckham is past it, I don't know why he is still the captain after countless penalties he's missed that have cost England a hell of a lot. Lampard and Gerrard don't seem to play well together side by side.

Beckham shouldn't be in the team.

Wright-Phillips Lampard Gerrard Downing.

Name 1 midfield in the world better than that

by **Big Niall** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:42 pm

England should drop Becham, try get scholes back in the middle. Lampard and Gerrard are too similar and don't control a game the way Scholes can. Lampard and Gerrard should fight it out in the middle.

SWP and Downing both MIGHT do the job in midfield. Too early to know if they are good enough for international football , never mind winning the WC. Back four are solid, James should NOT be allowed in goal.

Still not sure up front. Rooney has skills and potential, Owen is a bit hot and cold and nobody else comes close.

Too many maybes and weaknesses, the only position England are rock solid is centre back with cover in depth.

by **A.B.** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:19 pm

stapo1000 wrote:
A.B. wrote:
stapo1000 wrote:england have best midfield and defence in the world. tthey have a v. good forward line and decent keeper. shouldn't be loosing to the likes of portugal and also erikson will have to drop beckham before wc 2006

Best midfield? I disagree. Beckham is past it, I don't know why he is still the captain after countless penalties he's missed that have cost England a hell of a lot. Lampard and Gerrard don't seem to play well together side by side.

Beckham shouldn't be in the team.

Wright-Phillips Lampard Gerrard Downing.

Name 1 midfield in the world better than that

Look at Brazil's midfield.

Gerrard and Lampard do not play well alongside one another.

by **A.B.** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:20 pm

Big Niall wrote:England should drop Becham, try get scholes back in the middle. Lampard and Gerrard are too similar and don't control a game the way Scholes can. Lampard and Gerrard should fight it out in the middle.

SWP and Downing both MIGHT do the job in midfield. Too early to know if they are good enough for international football , never mind winning the WC. Back four are solid, James should NOT be allowed in goal.

Still not sure up front. Rooney has skills and potential, Owen is a bit hot and cold and nobody else comes close.

Too many maybes and weaknesses, the only position England are rock solid is centre back with cover in depth.

Defoe should play, he is a far better player than AJ. He should be played more often.

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