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Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:41 pm
by UvS xR4GEx
Salah is always gonna be a threat.. I think he needs to run at his opponent abit more but that will come in time. I think he'll link up better with Couts because he always finds them through balls.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:41 pm
by only me
Load of chances with horrid defending by the back 4...typical night for Liverpool...Great result could have been lights out.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:42 pm
by Boocity
only me » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:32 pm wrote:Arznold pathetic defending...what was he thinking?

Yes 5 mins from time and he goes ball watching

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:43 pm
by The Raven
Great result, tough game.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:44 pm
by johnbarnes
Should, could have been 4-0 or 4-1
At this level...
Poor, poor, poor!
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We will take a hiding if we get to group stages.
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This season is going to be hopeLESS.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:45 pm
by aCe'
Can and Henderson partnership is sht. We need Lallana or Coutinho in there to control the midfield better. Terrible in possession, passing game seems to have completely gone out of the gameplan.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:47 pm
by 7_Kewell
aCe' » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:45 pm wrote:Can and Henderson partnership is sht. We need Lallana or Coutinho in there to control the midfield better. Terrible in possession, passing game seems to have completely gone out of the gameplan.

They both do the same job, hence the flatness. One of them needs to be on the bench, with Coutinho or Lallana playing in the other position.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:54 pm
by UvS xR4GEx
Positives - TAA is actually better than Clyne and isn't afraid to take on his man. Mignolet made some unbelievable saves and defiantly helped us with the win.

Negatives - Lovren defending like a child whose had too much orange juice. Can/Hendo and Gini struggling to control the midfield.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:01 pm
by ycsatbjywtbiastkamb
That's a great result, a win away against the team that finished 4th in Germany is nothing to be sniffed at, especially when they'd gone 16 months unbeaten at home. Yes the performance wasn't a 100% convincing but I remember us making heavy weather of worse teams than these under Rafa.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:04 pm
by kartiek
Maybe it's the injury but Hendo is just not good enough to be a holding midfielder or an attacking one either. I was happy enough with Can's input and one holding midfielder should've been enough for today.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:17 pm
by red till i die!!
Thought we were pretty poor at times during that game and it could be a different story had they of taken their chances.  That midfield tonight was awful and weak. Those 3 can't play together and I'm not sure it improved with milner coming in either. Defensively we were all over the shop at times with a heavy sprinkling of panic thrown in. Lovren and Moreno are the biggest contributors.
Mane MOTM for me  :nod Gave all and absolutely looked shattered coming off. Salah played alright but he has to adapt because he will struggle to find anyone when he gets in behind. He does look to be building up an understanding with TAA who had a good game also considering the occasion.
Keeping the clean sheet would have been nice but still its nice to walk away with the advantage. We will have to much for them in Anfield I reckon and should make the competition proper.

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:49 pm
by only me
I thought the biggest concern was the lack of control we had over the game ,mainly due to the lack of a holding MF with the 3 stooges really bring their D league game today...
The Other German coach prepared his team brilliantly tonight constantly attacking Moreno the Idiot (i don't blame Alberto it's all on Klopp for even playing him) and embarrassing our CB's time after time as well with set pieces which we didn't even try defend....On the other Side Mane just demolished them altogether...Firmino taking a more deeper centeral role showed his talent and Salah continue to be with heavy touch and extremely nervous on the ball...It all worked out in the end but you could just feel it could have easilly been the other way around...We really miss fcking Coutinho and Lallana..it become a wingers game with no MF at all..

Next week VVD to start instead of panicky Lovern ,Coutinho back in the middle and Seri instead of WTF Hendo is still doing as a starter.. :)

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:50 pm
by Welshwizard
Moreno is the fault 99% of the time just gets caught out of position which causes mayem at the back. Need hopefully VVD to come in to shore it up and Robertson to get the run at LB. Middle 3 not working at all,  need 2 holding with a playmaker behind front 3

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:57 am
by kazza
First match I have watched us play where we did not dominate the match and thankfully we won. They controlled the midfield and made a lot more passes than we did so very happy to win. I really thought we might have kept a very rare clean sheet but still a real advantage going to Anfield. It all could have been different had they scored that penalty but we have been due a bit of luck. I cannot see us not progressing.

Good games by Mane, Arnold, Mignolet

Re: Hoffenheim v Liverpool Tues 15th Aug 19:45

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:58 am
by only me
Welshwizard » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:50 pm wrote:Moreno is the fault 99% of the time just gets caught out of position which causes mayem at the back. Need hopefully VVD to come in to shore it up and Robertson to get the run at LB. Middle 3 not working at all,  need 2 holding with a playmaker behind front 3


Moreno shouldn't be playing period! That is why we bought Robertson from Hull ,Klopp decision making on Moreno is beyond belief...Just because he played one decent game in pre-season doesn't warrant him a starting position.
It's when irrational decision making comes into place i lose faith in Klopp...Agree with the rest of your comments as well...If we don't get Coutinho back next week worth playing Gruijc instead of Hendo.