Re: Liverpool V Besiktas - EL - Thurs 19th Feb K.O. 8.05pm
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:39 pm
I am a huge fan of the internet....I love it and can't really imagine a world without it cos so many cool things come from it, but this whole penalty discussion both here and elsewhere is a great example of one of the really irritating facets which is everyone turns in an expert on things they know absolutely nothing about and every piece of minutiae is analysed to death. The only facts are that he took the penalty, he scored and we won because of it. We should be hailing him as a hero and nothing else. Move on to the next game and let's hope we win again. It's like we're always looking for something to complain about just to have something to talk about here sometimes
Other facts:
The media reported only a piece of what Stevie said and in the full context his comments weren't anything earth shattering. He had a point, as I suppose some people do on here, but let's be honest it was hardly even a scuffle. Did it reflect in any way badly on the team/club/player.....not in my opinion.
Partial facts/partial opinion:
Stevie is exiting the club and now the decision has been made, the remainder of his tenure is and will remain uncomfortable and awkward. His influence and opinion is less significant than it was last season as it is only valid for another 4 months approx. Couple that with the fact that he has been injured twice since he stated his health/condition was not an issue around the time of the announcement and the team is performing without him, sometimes it's a bit of a moot point. The team is obviously transitioning and moving on and some of the players that were perhaps hiding in his shadow are now coming to the fore. I appreciate that he gave his personal opinion rather than dodge the question altogether, but the fact is that he wasn't there on the pitch and I think that Henderson did a great job of avoiding a bigger scene for someone so relatively inexperienced
There's talk about lack of leadership without Stevie in the squad, but what do we expect when there has been such dominance for so long? As above, that is currently in transition for me and we will not see anyone fully grow into that role until it has been vacated. I wanted him to stay, but once the decision is made, the longer he hangs around the more detrimental he'll be to that situation.
The people on here criticising BR for me are beyond belief. From the beginning of the season until October/November, he was accused of not knowing his strongest team and not knowing his strongest formation and incapable of dealing with the leaky defence. A number of his signings were ridiculed and the way everyone was hitting both him and Mignolet was something to behold. His one statement was that a lot of people were bedding in and in many ways we were back to where we were 2 years ago when it took until Jan/Feb for things to click. Low and behold, the strongest team seems to be known, the formation seems to be known, the style of play seems to be known, we're winning whilst keeping clean sheets and a lot of those signings are starting to show promise, heck, even Mario seems to be digging in and trying to contribute....yet some still find ways to use words like ineptitude on here. This for someone who is overseeing league winning form from the beginning of the year onwards.
I don't know what the future holds any more than anyone else on here, but can we please try to focus a little more on the positives and just get behind the squad and the manager and act like proper fans worthy of the tradition and reputation that we are so well known for? Claiming the manager is inept is as good as an automatic discredit in my eyes. The team is transforming as he has predicted and he's managing to do it in some of the most difficult circumstances an LFC manager possibly ever had to face....Jamie leaving, Suarez and everything to do with that and now Stevie leaving. We may not be back to old ways as we'd like to see it, but the ship is being righted again and if we're objective for a moment, the Stevie story is being weathered particularly well. Mocked for only bringing back Ibe in January, but that looks to be a master stroke and the gap that Stevie is leaving seems to be filling in. Could it be that by the end of the season it's not as devastating as we all thought it would be? I'd rate the chances as very high at this moment and things look promising. Personally I think that BR has been playing a blinder for a couple of seasons on the personnel front and if he does realise what is currently being promised by the way the team is developing, it should be as a master stroke and himself a miracle worker.
Just get behind the club and manager from now till the end of the season and make this board more pleasant to read again.
Other facts:
The media reported only a piece of what Stevie said and in the full context his comments weren't anything earth shattering. He had a point, as I suppose some people do on here, but let's be honest it was hardly even a scuffle. Did it reflect in any way badly on the team/club/player.....not in my opinion.
Partial facts/partial opinion:
Stevie is exiting the club and now the decision has been made, the remainder of his tenure is and will remain uncomfortable and awkward. His influence and opinion is less significant than it was last season as it is only valid for another 4 months approx. Couple that with the fact that he has been injured twice since he stated his health/condition was not an issue around the time of the announcement and the team is performing without him, sometimes it's a bit of a moot point. The team is obviously transitioning and moving on and some of the players that were perhaps hiding in his shadow are now coming to the fore. I appreciate that he gave his personal opinion rather than dodge the question altogether, but the fact is that he wasn't there on the pitch and I think that Henderson did a great job of avoiding a bigger scene for someone so relatively inexperienced
There's talk about lack of leadership without Stevie in the squad, but what do we expect when there has been such dominance for so long? As above, that is currently in transition for me and we will not see anyone fully grow into that role until it has been vacated. I wanted him to stay, but once the decision is made, the longer he hangs around the more detrimental he'll be to that situation.
The people on here criticising BR for me are beyond belief. From the beginning of the season until October/November, he was accused of not knowing his strongest team and not knowing his strongest formation and incapable of dealing with the leaky defence. A number of his signings were ridiculed and the way everyone was hitting both him and Mignolet was something to behold. His one statement was that a lot of people were bedding in and in many ways we were back to where we were 2 years ago when it took until Jan/Feb for things to click. Low and behold, the strongest team seems to be known, the formation seems to be known, the style of play seems to be known, we're winning whilst keeping clean sheets and a lot of those signings are starting to show promise, heck, even Mario seems to be digging in and trying to contribute....yet some still find ways to use words like ineptitude on here. This for someone who is overseeing league winning form from the beginning of the year onwards.
I don't know what the future holds any more than anyone else on here, but can we please try to focus a little more on the positives and just get behind the squad and the manager and act like proper fans worthy of the tradition and reputation that we are so well known for? Claiming the manager is inept is as good as an automatic discredit in my eyes. The team is transforming as he has predicted and he's managing to do it in some of the most difficult circumstances an LFC manager possibly ever had to face....Jamie leaving, Suarez and everything to do with that and now Stevie leaving. We may not be back to old ways as we'd like to see it, but the ship is being righted again and if we're objective for a moment, the Stevie story is being weathered particularly well. Mocked for only bringing back Ibe in January, but that looks to be a master stroke and the gap that Stevie is leaving seems to be filling in. Could it be that by the end of the season it's not as devastating as we all thought it would be? I'd rate the chances as very high at this moment and things look promising. Personally I think that BR has been playing a blinder for a couple of seasons on the personnel front and if he does realise what is currently being promised by the way the team is developing, it should be as a master stroke and himself a miracle worker.
Just get behind the club and manager from now till the end of the season and make this board more pleasant to read again.