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7_Kewell wrote:

ethanr wrote:

ForeverAugust wrote:

ethanr wrote:Well spurs continue to lose points against bottom clubs as well.  If we can build on this garbage, we could be in good shape.  If we can't.  Well...

By the way Soto was from AEK Athens for whoever thought he was from Rangers.

That was me. I'm sure he played for Rangers once though, didn't he?

*edit* Disregard this post, sorry.

Ahh I see.  Used to play for Rangers then Athens and here... gotcha.

I was starting to think Meireles was quite a signing, but the last 3 or 4 games... I'm really starting to question him.  I was thinking that Adam may not be able to crack the starting lineup, but at this point I'd love Adam over Meireles.

Raul is struggling because he's been put on the wing again....he's NOT a winger.

RedSi35 wrote:Bunch of .

We are lacking in so many areas, so dissapointing that johnson and agger went off injured again, jesus agger again, ship him out, his injuries are this team up too much.

Reg wrote:Liverpool have enouigh strength in depth to close down a game against West Brom despite injuries. The lads should have settle for a draw and a single poitn once they realised the way the game as panning out - thats whats disappointing and shows a lack of tactical nouse.

Reg, the problem was as i saw it, is when wba got the equalizer we were done for.

We had no leader on the pitch ( a la stevie ) to gee up the team and focus them again, carra isnt the type to do that ( he just blames everyone else ).

As soon as that equalizer went in, i knew we would lose, the crowd picked up and wba players knew they had us. Our heads dropped and despite suarez trying his best, he had no support.

Too many players underperformed, our midfield was frankly abysmal for most of the afternoon.......industrious but all invention.


Creativity is going to cost us mucho moola

alwayslfc wrote:Defence was terrible, midfield was clueless, Suarez-Carroll had not much support. Diehard Kenny fans are right in pointing out the team were missing Kelly, Gerard, Agger, no Alonso replacement and Lucas, Spearing were terrible , the team against Albion was a team B and finally Kenny needs to overhaul the team by making a few star signings in the summer. All these reasons do hold water.

I agree with that and that the Albion game was not our first team and were mostly 2nd rate players. Now, if we were outclassed and thrashed by a strong side with a team B then that was expected. But with a team B against the likes of W.Brom, W.Ham, Wigan in the bottom half and whose players are also equivalent to a Liverpool team B, then those games in theory should be evenly matched. However in those games, we were outclassed and seemed to fear the opponents and even fear of getting the ball.

So if those games with lesser teams are not evenly matched in terms of play and ball possession, then I sadly would have to say it out bluntly, that it could be Kenny's inept management. If the Albion game we were thrashed by any of the top teams then I wouldn't suspect Kenny, but with mediocre players against weak sides we were still outplayed and outclassed, I would have to put it down to the manager.

Now, I love Kenny like a brother due to his past contributions as player and manager. But after games like W.Ham, W.Brom and even Wigan (yes we didn't get beat but still outgunned), I am beginning to suspect he could have lost the edge. But at this moment in time, he is still the best person to manage Liverpool but maybe not in the long run.

algymoon wrote:

alwayslfc wrote:Defence was terrible, midfield was clueless, Suarez-Carroll had not much support. Diehard Kenny fans are right in pointing out the team were missing Kelly, Gerard, Agger, no Alonso replacement and Lucas, Spearing were terrible , the team against Albion was a team B and finally Kenny needs to overhaul the team by making a few star signings in the summer. All these reasons do hold water.

I agree with that and that the Albion game was not our first team and were mostly 2nd rate players. Now, if we were outclassed and thrashed by a strong side with a team B then that was expected. But with a team B against the likes of W.Brom, W.Ham, Wigan in the bottom half and whose players are also equivalent to a Liverpool team B, then those games in theory should be evenly matched. However in those games, we were outclassed and seemed to fear the opponents and even fear of getting the ball.

So if those games with lesser teams are not evenly matched in terms of play and ball possession, then I sadly would have to say it out bluntly, that it could be Kenny's inept management. If the Albion game we were thrashed by any of the top teams then I wouldn't suspect Kenny, but with mediocre players against weak sides we were still outplayed and outclassed, I would have to put it down to the manager.

Now, I love Kenny like a brother due to his past contributions as player and manager. But after games like W.Ham, W.Brom and even Wigan (yes we didn't get beat but still outgunned), I am beginning to suspect he could have lost the edge. But at this moment in time, he is still the best person to manage Liverpool but maybe not in the long run.

I do agree with you on Lucas, who is no where near master class Alonso, and I can't see the wisdom in giving him new contract few days ago, the LFC is ought to shipping him away totally, he and others like him and they are too many in our squad. Our midfield is very weak, lacks big depth in class, and the defense is very weak too, the Greek & Skrtel makes too many basic mistakes, and that is why we are often outclass and outfought against lower teams.

The team can't win against those teams, not because Kenny's management is in doubt, or he might lost the edge that he had before, it is simply down to crop of below average players that our squad is blessed with!!, just put those shitty players under the management of A. Wenger, Mourinho, or even Alex Ferguson, all of which will struggle badly and wouldn't be able to improve the performances or the results.