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Mon May 04, 2009 4:45 pmby dawson99
Bad Bob wrote:maypaxvobiscum wrote:Bad Bob wrote:I can understand book fans who are frustrated with how certain characters (Tom Bombadil, Glorfindal) were absent from the movie while others (Arwen) are given a far bigger role than Tolkien ever wrote for them. For me, though, the movies work and they do so by offering an interpretation of the Tolkien trilogy rather than a faithful adaptation.
and i remember Haldir not getting killed in the book but dying in The Two Towers.
You don't have to tell me, mate. My wife has a huge crush on the movie Haldir and hates to see him killed off. Every time we watch the movie, I wind her up about it: "turns his back for a minute and gets killed...what a loser!" Stuff like that.
The films wouldnt have worked if every 2 minutes someone was singing...
Bombadil was supposed to have a cameo, just seen in the distance, but they never filmed it.
The Hobbit will be the interesting one, as they will be taking aspects from the other books he wrote as well as the hobbit to give the characters and locations more depth
also, the bone colelctor wasn't black in the cooks, and Arnies character in the running man book WAS black, now thats a book they should have remade mroe faithfully!!!
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Mon May 04, 2009 5:04 pmby maypaxvobiscum
Bad Bob wrote:maypaxvobiscum wrote:Bad Bob wrote:I can understand book fans who are frustrated with how certain characters (Tom Bombadil, Glorfindal) were absent from the movie while others (Arwen) are given a far bigger role than Tolkien ever wrote for them. For me, though, the movies work and they do so by offering an interpretation of the Tolkien trilogy rather than a faithful adaptation.
and i remember Haldir not getting killed in the book but dying in The Two Towers.
You don't have to tell me, mate. My wife has a huge crush on the movie Haldir and hates to see him killed off. Every time we watch the movie, I wind her up about it: "turns his back for a minute and gets killed...what a loser!" Stuff like that.
i have to admit Haldir was also my personal fave besides Arwen thus i remember the scene vividly
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Mon May 04, 2009 5:54 pmby andy_g
its another debate to which there is no definitive answer. there are examples of films being better (or working better) than the books they are based on such as 'bladerunner' and 'do androids dream of electric sheep' and others where the book is a million times better such as the book and film of ballard's 'crash'.
for a medium that can transport you into another world then a book wins hands down every day for me.
inviting a girl to come round and read a book with you is a bad idea for a first date though.
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Mon May 04, 2009 6:35 pmby dawson99
andy_g wrote:its another debate to which there is no definitive answer. there are examples of films being better (or working better) than the books they are based on such as 'bladerunner' and 'do androids dream of electric sheep' and others where the book is a million times better such as the book and film of ballard's 'crash'.
for a medium that can transport you into another world then a book wins hands down every day for me.
inviting a girl to come round and read a book with you is a bad idea for a first date though.
unless its dawsons patented pop-up porn
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Mon May 04, 2009 7:01 pmby andy_g
i don't think i've seen much porn which hasn't been pop-up
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Mon May 04, 2009 7:03 pmby dawson99
true dat.
I'm actually re-reading lord of the rings at the moment.. everythings queer and it's very talky with not much fighty but that's the tiem it was written.
The Lincoln Rhymes books are good and there is a good shakespeare take on the da vinci code...
I do like a good read, plus, go to a real good bookstore and there is some nice posh totty usually
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Mon May 04, 2009 7:06 pmby metalhead
I'm reading the great war for civilization by robert fisk, 1300 page book.. I don't think there will be a movie for that
I've read Angels and Demons, would be really interesting how the movie will turn out
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Mon May 04, 2009 9:06 pmby kazza 1
Prefere books. I hate when I have read a good Stephen King book and then a film is made about it and half of it is missing 
Tbh.. I think the only SK book that made a good film was "The Shinning" as most of it was true to the book, but the rest, apart from his short stories (as Dawson said) are krap as films. On the telly at the moment, theres a SK mini series on called Desperation and although I am enjoying watching it, theres still a lot missing and some of it is quite important to help you understand whats going on. Its quite sad really.
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Mon May 04, 2009 9:09 pmby dawson99
kazza 1 wrote:Prefere books. I hate when I have read a good Stephen King book and then a film is made about it and half of it is missing
Tbh.. I think the only SK book that made a good film was "The Shinning" as most of it was true to the book, but the rest, apart from his short stories (as Dawson said) are krap as films. On the telly at the moment, theres a SK mini series on called Desperation and although I am enjoying watching it, theres still a lot missing and some of it is quite important to help you understand whats going on. Its quite sad really.
The Stand tho I did enjoy... and he made some hospital thing which was good, but usually with King you gotta read the book, apparently Cell is being made into a film which could be interesting
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Mon May 04, 2009 10:41 pmby tubby
Nice topic, but for me it depends on the subject. There are some books that I enjoy reading over and over again. But there are some films that you just cannot express in the form of a book.
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Mon May 04, 2009 10:43 pmby dawson99
Trainspotting is one of the true great exceptions... works almost perfectly both as a book and a film, in completely different ways
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Mon May 04, 2009 10:45 pmby tubby
Sometimes a book is so good and then the film adaptation isnt made up to par so it's dissapointing. eg Donnie Brasco....
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Tue May 05, 2009 10:29 amby kazza 1
dawson99 wrote:kazza 1 wrote:Prefere books. I hate when I have read a good Stephen King book and then a film is made about it and half of it is missing
Tbh.. I think the only SK book that made a good film was "The Shinning" as most of it was true to the book, but the rest, apart from his short stories (as Dawson said) are krap as films. On the telly at the moment, theres a SK mini series on called Desperation and although I am enjoying watching it, theres still a lot missing and some of it is quite important to help you understand whats going on. Its quite sad really.
The Stand tho I did enjoy... and he made some hospital thing which was good, but usually with King you gotta read the book, apparently Cell is being made into a film which could be interesting
Have you read Cell Daws?? Its a fantastic book. With some books the action dont start until about 2 chapters in but "Cell" starts from the very first page. Would be intersting to see how they would get on in a movie. (Which reminds me.. I must get it back of my son. Hes had it for months and still has'nt read it, lol!)
One King film I have seen and its not read the book is The Mist, which is a great film but I will have to try and get the book before I decide if the film is better. I think a trip to the Library is on the cards today, lol! On Kings website it says that Dolans Cadilllic is being made into a movie, with Christan Slater playing the role of Jimmy Dolan. The story itself is a short one from the book Nightmares & Dreamscapes and its only about 50 pages long. So it should be interesting to see what they squeeze into the film.
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Tue May 05, 2009 2:38 pmby Big Niall
bavlondon wrote:Sometimes a book is so good and then the film adaptation isnt made up to par so it's dissapointing. eg Donnie Brasco....
I thought the film was good and then read the book. A book will always cover more than the film and so you might understand things a bit better.
same with "catch me if you can" with di caprio, enjoyed both.
I have to confess though if it is a choice of reading a 600 page book on a historical event or watching it in an hour on the history channel, my lazy gene takes over.
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Tue May 05, 2009 3:23 pmby bunglemark2
Would love to see if a scriptwriter has a bash at moving pretty much ANY John Connolly book to the big screen. He has a style that appeals to your (very) dark side and some of the characters in his books are just scary as yer mother in law But I'd recommend him as a very disturbing but fascinating read. I've read all of his books and kept 'em all, the only author I've done that for.
Another fave of mine, though a completely different genre, is Richard North PAtterson. Read all of his as well, and would recommend "Balance of Power" and "Exile" - you won't be able to put them down...