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Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:10 pm**

There was an interesting discussion on the radio this evening, about the antics of Joey Barton of Man city at the club's Xmas party, in which it is "alleged" the eye lids of Jamie Tandy were burnt with the a cigar, by Barton... sicko or what :devil:

The debate was whether footballers who behave in such irresponsible/violent ways should be "sacked" ?

Or is fining them 4 weeks wages enough punishment?

.... and what blame should club's themselves take for the behaviou of their players ?

At a time when the drink culture and teenagers are out of control on boozing and bingeing crawls... is this another example of footballers neglecting their duty to behave in acceptable ways... even of duty... ?

Or are we just being harsh on leaving footballers and football to lead the way, when they are only reflecting society's ills ?

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:23 pm**

Its because they think they are superstars on there wages and think they are better than they actually are.
We had our spice boys they used to get up to all sorts I used to see them in nightclubs and half of the time you would be embarressed that they played for our mighty LFC.
Until Houllier got rid that was one good thing he done anyway.
The Bowyer saga years ago when he beat someone up outside a nightclub, he should have never been aloud to play football again but no he went on to be sold to another club for millions.
Then we have had a couple of players from teams in what they call (roasting session) were its basicly aload of men raping a girl. But its ok cause they are footballers, so nothing happens to them :glare:

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Im afriad with the money they are on and the celebrity lifestyle they lead they dont give 2 shits, why should they a few weeks wages doesnt go a miss out of 40 grand a week or so.
I think if its something really bad that they do they should get the sack, because alot of footballers are like idols and dont give a ****** that about them that idolise them the fans, and no respect for there clubs either.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:27 pm**

Agreed... the crux .. too much money.. too young ... no sense of what responsibility the status brings with it and a complete lack of appreciation of the ramifications..

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:28 pm**

Sorry zara you said in the topic whos to blame, I think the players are to blame :angry:

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:30 pm**

Yep agreed again ... the buck stops with them

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:33 pm**

Oh look girl a debate between us 2

Thats a first :cool:

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:36 pm**

lol no hunks neither oops...

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:34 pm**

I blame Americans and The Media

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:35 pm**

The Canadian Red Army wrote:I blame Americans and The Media

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:40 pm**

Heres the story.

Barton fined £60,000 for fracas
By Sam Wallace
23 December 2004

Joey Barton will be charged with gross misconduct and fined a Manchester City club record £60,000 for burning a team-mate on the eyelid with a cigar at the players' Christmas party, but the short-tempered midfielder will not be sold.

However, the future does not look quite so secure for his victim, Jamie Tandy, 20, whose involvement in the incident at a bar in central Manchester began when he tried to set fire to Barton's shirt. It is not the first time that City officials have had their patience tested by Tandy, a reserve-team player, and the club are now considering moving him on in the summer.

In the meantime, City have convened a disciplinary committee - which will be chaired by the director Brian Bodek and will include the manager, Kevin Keegan, - to deal with Barton, 22, and Tandy. They expect to come to an agreement on a punishment for the players before the Boxing Day fixture away at Everton.

Although the maximum penalty for a player, agreed with the Professional Footballers' Association, is two weeks' wages, the club expect to fine Barton four weeks' wages by charging him with gross misconduct. For the England Under-21 midfielder, who signed a new three-year contract in the summer, that would mean a £60,000 bill.

The incident took place on Sunday in the Lucid bar in Manchester's refurbished Printworks complex during the team's fancy-dress Christmas party. Barton, who was dressed as Jimmy Saville, thrusted the lighted cigar into Tandy's face when he realised that his team-mate was trying to set fire to his shirt.

The two men have never been close friends and have clashed in the past on the training ground. A City source said: "Joey is a proud Scouser who wears his heart on his sleeve, while Jamie is a boisterous Mancunian. They just don't get on."

Tandy was treated at the Manchester Royal Infirmary and has nothing more serious than a burnt eyelid which will not prevent him from training with the reserves today. City's players were given the day off yesterday but Barton, who scored the winner against Bolton on Saturday, is expected to train with the first team as usual today.

Barton's development at City stalled last year as he failed to hold down a place in the centre of Keegan's midfield amid reports that he had, on occasions, lost his temper in training and clashed with team-mates. Despite that, the player, who was rejected by Everton as a schoolboy, has remained a popular figure at the club's training ground. Coaching staff are dismayed that, even at 22, he still seems unable to control his temper.

The City spokesman Paul Tyrrell said: "I can confirm that the club is aware of an incident involving two members of our playing staff that occurred on Sunday evening.

"An immediate investigation has been completed and the matter is being dealt with internally. A disciplinary process will be conducted appropriately and promptly."

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:35 am**

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:
The Canadian Red Army wrote:I blame Americans and The Media

its a very viable answer

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:44 am**

jeez Canadian red, you would blame the Americans if it started raining in Canada.

BLAME CANADA I SAY (South Park Movie).

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:05 am**

I blame the Canadians and the media.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:18 am**

A.B. wrote:I blame the Canadians and the media.

you would start an argument with your own mom wouldnt you AB

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:57 am**

It was a joke.

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