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Who was it... - Re: Gerrard
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:37 pmby 115-1073096938
Who said i was being rediculous when i put Gerrard's name in a poll for who would be top scorer this season and had a go?
Was it you Lakes? Sorry if it wasn't like, but someone did. Just curious.
Games Goals
M Baros 17+6 11
S Gerrard 20+1 8
N Mellor 11+4 5
J Riise 30+2 5
J Luis Garcia 20+2 5
F Sinama Pongolle 10+12 4
Not far off is he. 
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:39 pmby Ola Mr Benitez
I might be being thick here.. but I don't get your maths? 
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:40 pmby Ola Mr Benitez
Oh... i see now... doh!!
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:40 pmby taff
He's already betterd last season although top scorer for the season Ill have £100 with you on that one Stu
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:42 pmby 115-1073096938
Taff you sure mate the way the injuries have gone this season? I wouldn't if i was you. 
Taxi for O.M.B.
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:43 pmby stmichael
funny really. before the season started if there was one criticism i would have made of stevie g, it was that for a player of his ability he didn't score enough goals. ultimately, i think this new advanced role he was asked to play when we had injuries enabled him to get more shots in at goal. i personally think he can get 15+ this season.
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:49 pmby 115-1073096938
****** the advanced role. He should play in the middle with Alonso.
My only critisism of him is he doesn't use his brain and frustrates the hell out of me with his decisions in the game. Thats it, i believe he has everything else. In all honesty its the only fault with him.
I can rarely bring myself to praise him highly because of his choice of pass. He annoys me so much sometimes. Its not even as if he doesn't know any better anymore, because he does these days. He knows not to do but carry's on. He should get there given time but we'll have to wait and see.
Great player he is though.
Alonso though has a similar problem only he's a better passer. He picks the wrong ball alot of the time. I can see This area of Alonso's game improving quicker than Stevies though.
Mind you players of that quality have to have faults i supose.
O.M.B. (Ola Mr Benitez)
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:57 pmby stmichael
stu_the_red wrote:Alonso though has a similar problem only he's a better passer. He picks the wrong ball alot of the time. I can see This area of Alonso's game improving quicker than Stevies though.
Mind you players of that quality have to have faults i supose.
The only negative thing I can say about Alonso is that to me, he's not a natural athlete. However, he's one of those players so sharp mentally that he doesn't need to charge all over the pitch. He can control the pace of a game; it doesn't control him. It's nice to imagine how good he'll be once he's fully acclimatized, and given he's still so young, how good he'll be in a couple of years.
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Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:31 pmby woof woof !
stu_the_red wrote:****** the advanced role. He should play in the middle with Alonso.
Stu ,
Seem to remember discussing this with you last season when you advocated that he should play a primarily holding/ defensive role whilst myself and others were calling for him to be allowed the freedom to steam forward in support of the front two. Now that he has that freedom he is banging in the goals.
Long may it continue.
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:38 pmby 115-1073096938
Woof woof. I didn't say that at all.
I said he should be allowed to play his natural game and balls to a holding role in midfield. Gerrard is a natural ball winner. The best attributes in his game are all defensive either exception of his long distance shooting. He is a primarally defensive player.
I've never said he shouldn't be able to bomb forward, but i have stated in the past he should be the most defensive midfielder. Alonso is a play maker, Gerrard a ball winner.
Gerrard is however an "attack" minded ball winner so to speak and Alonso a "defensive" minded play maker.
Both are able to do both jobs, which is what i was calling out for for years. Not one to do one job and one to do another. They have to work as a team, not individuals and now we have options and quality within the options.
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:41 pmby stmichael
stu_the_red wrote:Gerrard is a natural ball winner. He is a primarally defensive player.
Alonso is a play maker, Gerrard a ball winner.
Gerrard is however an "attack" minded ball winner so to speak and Alonso a "defensive" minded play maker.
cheers for clearing that up stu
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:43 pmby 115-1073096938
****** off u know what i mean.
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:49 pmby woof woof !
stu_the_red wrote:i have stated in the past he should be the most defensive midfielder.
And I have stated in the past that he should be our most offensive midfielder .
Proof of the pudding is in the eating etc.
Posted:
Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:52 pmby stmichael
stu_the_red wrote:****** off u know what i mean.
yeah, i think you were trying to get across that gerrard is a ball winner