RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Klopp is German ,so does he manage this team with the methodical attention to detail we associate with a German ? Why is it that when we bring a manager in to instill the qualities their respective countries are renowned for they seem to bin them at the door before they set foot inside the club ? Is it just our club that has this effect on managers ? I mean Conti is Italian and Chelsea are almost frighteningly rigid and solid at the back,Guardiola is Spanish and his City team play fluent short intricate passing certainly not dissimilar to his Barcelona team ?
The football we play and at the pace we do is similar to what he played when at Dortmund but that's about it. He had built a much better side that was balanced and played to their strengths and it always involved a striker. It was never a front 3 of attacking mids like he seems insistent on here.
The traits you mention above are exactly why clubs hire those managers and back them with their players. I would add Maureen to that list as well as the first thing he does is solidify his teams defensively and then Drogba style up front. All these managers have different styles but one thing in common and that's them signing the players to play that way whereas Klopp either isn't bothered or thinks what he has is really that good.
My question is this :As a club,are we insistent on the type of football the manager is expected to play,do we as the most ebullient of fans provide a kind of safety net for our managers with our at times unconditional love for this club almost to the extent a manager will abandon the core principles which has made his teams so effective ?
I think the managers of this club under FSG are encouraged/ expected to play a more open attacking style . Rodgers spent a lot of money and the football was pretty much the same where we couldn't defend and began throwing away leads on a regular basis. We bought a lot of players with potential based on whatever by a committee that is still in operation so maybe they didn't think the players needed changing but rather introducing a manager who can get those players to the next level. Then we got Klopp and he has somewhat achieved that but its still the same issue that remains and that is certain players are just not good enough. Why he hasn't replaced them or still persists with the same captain is anyones guess. Imo he is here to manage what Fsg think they are building.
As fans we do want to see exciting football but accept it can't always be like that. Would we take Maureen knowing what style he would bring if it meant finally lifting that league ? Jurgen would have won much more stuff if he was more open to changing his tactics in crucial games. It can't always be flat to the mat every game unless you have the players to do it but we don't.
There is no safety net for managers here anymore as it could be 6 inside 10 years if Jurgen goes.
Things could and most likely would have been different if Klopp was given the full run of things like top managers get. I believe we would have signed more players and we would be a much better unit for it. We are in his 3rd season and while he has improved the players we still need to replace plenty. If Coutinho and Emre go then its pretty much a rebuild again.