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Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:02 pm
by 7_Kewell
We took a gamble and it hasn't paid off. Get rid in January for 10+ million, which should be achievable, given his stock in Italy.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:57 pm
by RedAnt
7_Kewell » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:02 pm wrote:We took a gamble and it hasn't paid off. Get rid in January for 10+ million, which should be achievable, given his stock in Italy.


Why single him out? I'm not sure anyone would have hit the ground running with our stuttering, disjointed performances. I'd at least like to see how he does when we're actually playing some football.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:10 pm
by 7_Kewell
RedAnt » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:57 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:02 pm wrote:We took a gamble and it hasn't paid off. Get rid in January for 10+ million, which should be achievable, given his stock in Italy.


Why single him out? I'm not sure anyone would have hit the ground running with our stuttering, disjointed performances. I'd at least like to see how he does when we're actually playing some football.

I'm not anti-Balotelli, but I think BR is going to have to work wonders in January to save our season. Problem is, we've got to sell before we buy. 

If Napoli came to us in Jan with £16 m for Mario, I'd take it and reinvest in another striker. 

Maybe Mario will come good in time, but time is something BR hasn't got.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:23 pm
by red till i die!!
With the strikers we currently have there is no way i'd bin balotelli in january. Bin borini and lambert first then sort out a no 1 who can replace sturridge. when danny is fit he is a luxury and certainly good enough to be 1st choice but far too unreliable.
Get that right and then replace balotelli if he still isn't cutting the mustard.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:48 pm
by ycsatbjywtbiastkamb
red till i die!! » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:23 pm wrote:With the strikers we currently have there is no way i'd bin balotelli in january. Bin borini and lambert first then sort out a no 1 who can replace sturridge. when danny is fit he is a luxury and certainly good enough to be 1st choice but far too unreliable.
Get that right and then replace balotelli if he still isn't cutting the mustard.


As you say he at least deserves the opportunity to see if he can strike up a partnership with Sturridge. They looked promising together away at Spurs.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:18 pm
by C-R
He is not in the squad for the Stoke match due to injury

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:02 am
by fivecups
You are an idiot, and you are going to be banned for at least five matches, well done.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:47 am
by C-R
Mario Balotelli faces FA investigation over 'racist and anti-Semitic' Instagram post

Mario Balotelli, the Liverpool striker, faces a Football Association investigation and possible five-match ban for an inflammatory social media message that has earned him a public rebuke from his club and an angry response from the Jewish Leadership Council.

Balotelli posted and then swiftly deleted an image on his Instagram page depicting the computer game character ‘Super Mario’ alongside a racial stereotype and anti-Semitic remark – "jumps like a black man and grabs coins like a Jew".

Simon Johnson, the former FA executive and now chief executive of the Jewish Leadership Council reacted angrily to post on Monday night.

"We abhor all forms of racism, wherever it is found," Johnson said. "We call upon the FA to investigate this offensive social media post and to take action if appropriate if we are to succeed in kicking racism out of football."

The provocative language in Balotelli's post, even if he claims it to be an ironic anti-racist message, leaves the Italian open to a breach of the FA’s social media guidelines. If charged, the minimum ban on race-related breaches is five games.

At the very least, the striker has had to explain his intentions to his club and the swiftness with which it was removed demonstrated Liverpool concerns. The FA is sure to explore it further.

“We are aware of the posting which has since been promptly deleted by the player,” a Liverpool spokesman said on Monday evening. “We will be speaking to the player about the issue.”

Balotelli tried to defend his actions on Twitter. “My Mom is jewish so all of u shut up please," he wrote.

FA rules are clear that players are also responsible for any third-party postings on their account, even if they are attempting to demonstrate the racial attitudes of others.

FA Rule E3 states: “Participants are deemed responsible for any postings on their account. The fact that a posting may have been made by a third party will not necessarily prevent disciplinary action being taken. 
In addition, re-tweeting another person’s posting may lead to disciplinary action if the original comment was improper. 
Finally, deleting an inappropriate posting, whilst advisable, does not necessarily prevent disciplinary action being taken.”

The governing body would also determine the context of such a posting, even though Balotelli may have been mocking racial stereotypes – he has been the subject of horrific abuse throughout his career – rather than advocating the message in the illustration.

The FA would fully assess this prior to determining whether further action is required, although plenty of players have fallen foul of the pitfalls of using social media in recent season.

Rio Ferdinand was fined and banned for three games for a tweet referencing gender this season, having earlier incurred the FA’s wrath for appearing to endorse someone’s else’s offensive tweet regarding Ashley Cole.

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Balotelli's post comes soon after Dave Whelan, the Wigan Athletic chairman, claimed in an interview that "Jews do chase money", a phrase that, along with his belief that "chink" is not an offensive description of a Chinese person, resulted in an FA charge.

For Liverpool, there is also the issue of Balotelli providing yet another distraction on the eve of an important fixture.

The 24-year-old did not travel with his team mates to Leicester ahead of their Premier League meeting, and club officials acted promptly when informed of the Instagram post.

Since moving to Anfield, Balotelli has continued to find himself courting attention for the wrong reasons – often inadvertently.

Although it remains to be seen if further action will be taken due to his use of social media, the incidents are starting to pile up as the club determines whether to retain him for the long term.

If he is charged by the FA, he will not only face a club fine but it will ensure – as per the clauses in his contract – he receives a reduced salary from his club.

An FA spokesman said it was aware of the situation and would be looking into it before determining whether to take any further action.

A spokesperson for Kick It Out said: "Kick It Out has been made aware of Mario Balotelli's Instagram post by a Twitter user and has now forwarded on to the FA to look into the matter."

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:05 am
by leeroy74
You've really got to be kidding me? Everything on that tweeted picture of Super Mario is FACTUAL and not racist.

He's an Italian Plumber - FACT
Created by Japanese People - FACT
Speaks English - FACT
Looks like a Mexican - FACT
Jumps like a black man - FACT
Collects coins like a Jewish person - FACT

nothing offensive to anyone at all unless these people are just looking for it! If they're offended by things like that god help them if they actually leave their houses and venture into the big bad world. sad times. :no

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:11 am
by only me
leeroy74 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:05 am wrote:You've really got to be kidding me? Everything on that tweeted picture of Super Mario is FACTUAL and not racist.

He's an Italian Plumber - FACT
Created by Japanese People - FACT
Speaks English - FACT
Looks like a Mexican - FACT
Jumps like a black man - FACT
Collects coins like a Jewish person - FACT

nothing offensive to anyone at all unless these people are just looking for it! If they're offended by things like that god help them if they actually leave their houses and venture into the big bad world. sad times. :no


Grabbing Coins like a Jew is a fact where exactly? the KKK charter?

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:14 am
by SouthCoastShankly
leeroy74 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:05 am wrote:You've really got to be kidding me? Everything on that tweeted picture of Super Mario is FACTUAL and not racist.

He's an Italian Plumber - FACT
Created by Japanese People - FACT
Speaks English - FACT
Looks like a Mexican - FACT
Jumps like a black man - FACT
Collects coins like a Jewish person - FACT

nothing offensive to anyone at all unless these people are just looking for it! If they're offended by things like that god help them if they actually leave their houses and venture into the big bad world. sad times. :no

He is doing it ironically, however the phase "jumps like a black man and grabs coins like a Jew" are racial stereotypes NOT facts Lee.

In fact the Jewish line is a slur on supposed Jewish greediness.

However there's no malice in it, I'd be disappointed if he got banned for. I'd doubt anyone would see that post as a racist remark.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:20 am
by RedAnt
A sad fact of life: racism is a perception, not an intention. Motives and reasons don't matter. If someone decides to see something as racist, then racist it is (Evra anyone?). Best thing these days is to keep your trap shut.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:22 am
by Reg
The PC brigade has gone mad, just ignore it.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:28 am
by Ben Patrick
Think Mario might fancy Xmas off.

Re: Mario Balotelli

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:47 am
by Kopite-Jud
What a sad f'kin world we live in.

Jesus christ.

Can't sing ba ba black sheep any more without it being "racict".

Mountains out of mole hills... infact not a mole hill because that will some how probably be "racist"

Astronomical mountains out of specs of dust.