Danish Red » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:07 pm wrote:Red till I die
When BR took over the club he took over a team 17 points from 4th - closer to the last relegation spot
Right now with are 5 points from 4th - when we he took over we were nowhere near getting 4th just like the previous 3 seasons - right now we are in the mix for a CL spot not miles away as we were when BR took over.
In regards the comparisons to De Boer and BR winning things as players - irrelevent what a manager wins as a player - you can name a great deal amount of the best managers around that did nothing as a player.
Madrid - we played our strongest team at home and they got mullered - so he plays others players and they actually provide a far better performance and he gets critisized for it ?! I say well done for having the balls to change things - two games against Madrid and one of our teams performed against them. But then he gets critisized for not picking them against Chelsea ?! He can't win can he
When did anyone say anything about performing well against Chelsea was "amazing" ?!
The performances highlight the improved form the team have had in the last 8 weeks.
I had a read of the "Is the job too big for Rodgers" - loads demanding he makes changes and improves the team etc etc - he does that yet people still harp on back to before the improvements
Last season constantly gets dismissed - flash in the pan etc etc
We nearly won the league - that didn't happen with any previous manager regardless of what position or points they got - we nearly won the fecking league and it just gets dismissed.
On another forum someone mentioned that Liverpool fans used to stand above others with the way we stuck together , the way we allowed managers time to build , the mentality to defend our team our players and our manager - not anymore - all over the Internet its the same - the insults to managers , players and fans , the demands to remove the manager it's pathetic - 2 and half seasons where the team has moved and people want the manager gone - sad and great people that have been associated with our great club would be ashamed right now.
He did take over when we finished 17 points off the pace in kennys last season. The year before that it was 10 points off, The one before that 7 points off, The one before that 6 points off and the one before that we were in it. We have always been close mate
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We are only 5 pts off after 22 games but again the year before he took over we were only 6pts off after 22 games believe it or not. The year before after 22 games we were 8 pts off and it gets better
The year before we were only 1 point off after 22 games. Imagine that. The year before we were in the top 4 after 22 games. Its where you finish in may that counts but the point is that its hardly the record of a club that was miles off anything. We always had our upsets at one stage or another and each manager with their own problems to deal with.
What counts about Winning is the experience gained from it, Finals are high pressure and the more of them you are in, the better Equipped you are to deal with the next one. It counts because you go into these games having done it before rather than be In awe of a wonderful stadium and a magnificent occasion. Rodger's record is very poor when it comes to high pressure games. Having someone who has experienced that atmosphere is a very important trait.
I told you you don't get it about madrid. It was about the spiel as to why he fielded that team as much as actually putting it out. It Wouldn't have been so bad if he backed up the reason why he said he did that in the first place.
Ok then not Amazing but maybe a tad excited about making it noted that we ran the champions elect to a good game ?.
The performance was indeed a reflection of the up turn of late and the change in the system. Its about what took him to make those changes though that i see most fans questioning and most have valid points.
Last season constantly gets dismissed
Says the very man who has pretty much dismissed rafa' s similar achievement in several posts and in the following sentence of this post I'm quoting..
I don't visit other forums, Feck I spend enough time on here as it is
But what you posted is the way it was back when, totally different times that didn't have access to the technology thats about now. Its easy for everyone to join a forum and give there tuppence and i say fair play to them for voicing an opinion. What has never changed is that football is not a science, Its based on opinions from the lowest being us the fan's and the top being the management. Its all about opinion, I think he's good we should sign him, I don't. I think we should play that way, I dont , I think we should do this and there is always someone who doesn't. Your Fecked if you do, Fecked if you don't that will never change and please everybody that the Internet has so kindly put together. What has changed though is how ruthless these owners of clubs have become and how high a price is put on success and how little time they get to deliver. This is the environment he came to after inheriting the job from someone who paid the price. He can thank himself lucky that he has already outlasted his 2 predecessors that his employers disposed of.
If it was my decision then he is gone but it isn't and kinda isn't a decision that fans get to make either. Its those ruthless owners who will decide that
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