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Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:52 pmby Owzat
neil wrote:I think theres something being overlooked here, the 4th spot is not the Premier leagues by right but a bonus invite due to coefficient success of Premier teams recent history, to wit as a result of Liverpool, man u, chelsea and everton...erm sorry arsenal constantly reaching the latter stages(all have a least 1 recent final under their belt) we keep 4 entrants whilst say Germany lose one and now only have 3. So what happens when one season wonders start taking up a champions league place after finishing in the top 7, Ipswich, West ham, Charlton etc, I'll tell you what happens- within 2 seasons Germany will be back upto 4 places and the likes of Everton will be crying about why the 3rd league place isnt up for grabs in a play off. rrrraaaaannnnttt over.
Not by me it wasn't, I raised this (probably elsewhere) when the daft idea of giving the place came up for the domestic cup (FA Cup)
That said, the rest of the leagues are in such a poor way and hardly setting Europe alight that the 'big three' could well carry the fourth spot like charity. Maybe they could rename it the European Charity Shield
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:27 pmby Big Niall
Champions should play in the European cup, runners up should play in the UEFA cup, if you aren't good enough to finish in the top 2, then you aren't good enough to be in European competition.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:46 pmby Scottbot
Big Niall wrote:Champions should play in the European cup, runners up should play in the UEFA cup, if you aren't good enough to finish in the top 2, then you aren't good enough to be in European competition.
I preferred the old set-up as well.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:19 pmby tubby
There is too much money in the present format to water it down now. But I agree it should be that way. They should divert more money into the Europa League, that way it will present a bigger insentive to teams challanging for it. Right now it is a joke.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:38 pmby heimdall
Big Niall wrote:Champions should play in the European cup, runners up should play in the UEFA cup, if you aren't good enough to finish in the top 2, then you aren't good enough to be in European competition.
top 2, champions, eh 
Either you only have the team actually winning the league or you have the 4 teams that we have today.
The problem with only having the champions is that it would be fecking boring, every year it would either be the team from La Liga, Serie A or the Prem winning it, at least now there are more good teams from those leagues in the mix.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:39 pmby xxTorresxx
Here's what Rafa made of it:
http://link.brightcove.com/service....9770001
Clearly not in favour of it 
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:59 pmby NANNY RED
Thinks like me that Rafa fella, 
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:47 pmby lakes10
i back Rafa on what he has said....but i again wish he had said nothing, others are going to take it that he is worried that we always be the team in the play off and not getting the top spots.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:52 pmby Reg
Knowing the way Liverpool plays we'd be even lazier and shoot for 7th position gambling all on winning the qualifier.
How can the 7th team ffs take part in the CHAMPIONS competition?
Stooopid.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:54 pmby LFC2007
neil wrote:I think theres something being overlooked here, the 4th spot is not the Premier leagues by right but a bonus invite due to coefficient success of Premier teams recent history, to wit as a result of Liverpool, man u, chelsea and everton...erm sorry arsenal constantly reaching the latter stages(all have a least 1 recent final under their belt) we keep 4 entrants whilst say Germany lose one and now only have 3. So what happens when one season wonders start taking up a champions league place after finishing in the top 7, Ipswich, West ham, Charlton etc, I'll tell you what happens- within 2 seasons Germany will be back upto 4 places and the likes of Everton will be crying about why the 3rd league place isnt up for grabs in a play off. rrrraaaaannnnttt over.
I think that's a key factor. The league has a lot to lose if - over time - the co-efficient score means it loses the fourth qualification spot.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:36 pmby NANNY RED
lakes10 wrote:i back Rafa on what he has said....but i again wish he had said nothing, others are going to take it that he is worried that we always be the team in the play off and not getting the top spots.
Stop worrying about what others think about us i dont give a sh.it . Rafa is saying what everyone is thinking , feck the lot of them
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:43 pmby Reg
Tell it like it is, girl. 
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:14 pmby tubby
Id probably expect Wenger and Ancelotti to even come out and back him tbh.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:26 pmby Big Niall
heimdall wrote:Big Niall wrote:Champions should play in the European cup, runners up should play in the UEFA cup, if you aren't good enough to finish in the top 2, then you aren't good enough to be in European competition.
top 2, champions, eh
Either you only have the team actually winning the league or you have the 4 teams that we have today.
The problem with only having the champions is that it would be fecking boring, every year it would either be the team from La Liga, Serie A or the Prem winning it, at least now there are more good teams from those leagues in the mix.
read my post again. only champions should be in the EUROPEAN CUP. 2nd place gets the UEFA cup.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:31 pmby tubby
I think even then Nial UEFA would look at the leagues and think , there are 2 more positions worth of clubs all over Europe that could have generated a lot of money.
It should be domestic winners + winners of UEFA cup go into the Champions League. Places 2,3 and 4 (4th decided by a playoff between 4th & 5th) go into the UEFA cup.