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Premier league 25 man squads - To be declared today

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:48 am
by fivecups
I thought it would worth putting the squads up for comparsion/discussion when they are announced later today. I'll post the squads up when released.

Here are the rules:

Premier League clubs must register a squad of up to 25 players
Clubs must submit a squad of up to 25 players aged 21 or over. Simply put, this new rule means that clubs risk having to leave some players on the sidelines, or ship them out on loan.

The likes of Manchester City have a huge squad, meaning City boss Roberto Mancini will be forced to either leave some of his players on the sidelines until the transfer window opens again in January.

The use of home-grown players
Eight of the 25-man squad submitted by clubs to the Premier League must include eight home-grown players. These do not have to be English-born players, but rather players who have spent a minimum of three years registered with an English club before the age of 21.

Other notes
- Clubs can supplement their squad with an unlimited number of players under the age of 21.

- Changes to the 25-man squad can only be made during the transfer window, meaning clubs who submit their first squad by September 1st will not be allowed to make changes again until January 1st, 2011. However, the Premier League may allow for changes in exceptional circumstances, such as a goalkeeper injury crisis.

- Players loaned out to clubs in the Football League cannot be replaced, but those players can regain their place in the 25-man squad upon their return to their parent club.

The above rules only apply to Premier League matches and not domestic Cup or European competition, which could lead to some larger clubs opting to use players who miss out on the Premier League squad for the likes of the Carling Cup.

The rules come into effect on September 1st at 17:00 BST.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:48 am
by fivecups
For later.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:56 am
by Bermenstein
So what happens if say for argument sake 10 of a certain teams players are injured long term, can they replace them or are they left with 15?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:00 am
by stmichael
ishould be interesting, not in terms of who makes it into the squads, but in terms of who is left out. there's bound to be a couple of big names who are left completely unhappy.

the thing is, what do you do if you are left out? what's the point of training if you have no goal at the end of the week? the only options for these players to play would be to go on loan to the championship.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:19 am
by fivecups
stmichael wrote:ishould be interesting, not in terms of who makes it into the squads, but in terms of who is left out. there's bound to be a couple of big names who are left completely unhappy.

the thing is, what do you do if you are left out? what's the point of training if you have no goal at the end of the week? the only options for these players to play would be to go on loan to the championship.

They are still eligible for cup games. I think it's only going to affect a few clubs. 25 players plus unlimited under-21's will be enough for most clubs. I like this new rule, may mean more youngsters get a chance.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:12 pm
by Owzat
fivecups wrote:
stmichael wrote:ishould be interesting, not in terms of who makes it into the squads, but in terms of who is left out. there's bound to be a couple of big names who are left completely unhappy.

the thing is, what do you do if you are left out? what's the point of training if you have no goal at the end of the week? the only options for these players to play would be to go on loan to the championship.

They are still eligible for cup games. I think it's only going to affect a few clubs. 25 players plus unlimited under-21's will be enough for most clubs. I like this new rule, may mean more youngsters get a chance.

I personally think it is tokenism, as if it will mean more English players in English Premiership clubs

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:30 pm
by crim cram
Owzat wrote:
fivecups wrote:
stmichael wrote:ishould be interesting, not in terms of who makes it into the squads, but in terms of who is left out. there's bound to be a couple of big names who are left completely unhappy.

the thing is, what do you do if you are left out? what's the point of training if you have no goal at the end of the week? the only options for these players to play would be to go on loan to the championship.

They are still eligible for cup games. I think it's only going to affect a few clubs. 25 players plus unlimited under-21's will be enough for most clubs. I like this new rule, may mean more youngsters get a chance.

I personally think it is tokenism, as if it will mean more English players in English Premiership clubs

its a step in the right direction though.  Most leagues have domestic player quotas.  What it could mean is higher prices for 19-20 year old players who are developed footballing talents.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:36 pm
by carmonkeycasino
I think this is great, i expect the league to get tougher with this new rule.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:34 pm
by Benny The Noon
carmonkeycasino wrote:I think this is great, i expect the league to get tougher with this new rule.

I expect it wont make a blind bit of difference due to the amount of loop holes in it .

City have just spent 25 million on a player who doesnt even need to be named in the 25 man squad

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:41 pm
by Ben Patrick
Benny The Noon wrote:
carmonkeycasino wrote:I think this is great, i expect the league to get tougher with this new rule.

I expect it wont make a blind bit of difference due to the amount of loop holes in it .

City have just spent 25 million on a player who doesnt even need to be named in the 25 man squad

Why ?  ???

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:44 pm
by GRAHAM01
Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
carmonkeycasino wrote:I think this is great, i expect the league to get tougher with this new rule.

I expect it wont make a blind bit of difference due to the amount of loop holes in it .

City have just spent 25 million on a player who doesnt even need to be named in the 25 man squad

Why ?  ???

because he is under the 21 age limit

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:46 pm
by Benny The Noon
Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
carmonkeycasino wrote:I think this is great, i expect the league to get tougher with this new rule.

I expect it wont make a blind bit of difference due to the amount of loop holes in it .

City have just spent 25 million on a player who doesnt even need to be named in the 25 man squad

Why ?  ???

Because he is too young - so he is free to play and not have to be added to the 25 man squad

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:07 pm
by crim cram
If you're 21 or younger you don't count against the 25 man roster.  N'gog doesn't count against ours.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:09 pm
by Ben Patrick
Ah right.

I havent really looked into it at all to be honest  :D

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:36 pm
by jacdaniel
Liverpool FC has submitted its 21-man squad to the Premier League. Home grown players: Carragher, Cole, Darby, Gerrard, Johnson, Jones, Konchesky, Spearing. Non home grown: Agger, Aurelio, Babel, Jovanovic, Kuyt, Kyrgiakos, Leiva, Meireles, Poulsen, Reina, Rodriguez, Skrtel, Torres. Roy Hodgson can also call on U21s Gulacsi, Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco, Eccleston and Ngog for Barclays Premier League games.