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Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:25 am
by Eagle
red till i die!! » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:49 pm wrote:Southampton can't be broke after all the money we have given them in the last few years. I'd say they struck that deal because of reservations about Ings fitness. Maybe we should have tried something like that for Fekir.


The move will be made perm on 1st July 2019 so Southampton have committed to the purchase. Most likely there will be some sort of financial/accounting reason for the deal being structured this way. £20mil and a 20% sell on a fee is good money.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:05 pm
by Klopptomaniac
Loan with obligation to buy is just a bookkeeping solution, nothing more

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:19 pm
by Ghost of Shankly
Apparently Southampton is Ing's home club and his family are from there etc, so it will suit him.

A loan deal looks the best option for the first 12 months as the lad has had two serious knee injuries.

Maybe we should have got Fekir on a similar Loan deal...

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:59 pm
by red till i die!!
Eagle » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:25 am wrote:
red till i die!! » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:49 pm wrote:Southampton can't be broke after all the money we have given them in the last few years. I'd say they struck that deal because of reservations about Ings fitness. Maybe we should have tried something like that for Fekir.


The move will be made perm on 1st July 2019 so Southampton have committed to the purchase. Most likely there will be some sort of financial/accounting reason for the deal being structured this way. £20mil and a 20% sell on a fee is good money.



Its great money if we get it. It is also likely that the fee will be structured so it wouldn't matter whether he signs now or next year, Payments could be deferred as well to get around any FFP issue they might have .

If we have an actual deal signed so that he goes next year then fair enough as long as they can't back out of it and return him.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:10 am
by Klopptomaniac
Ghost of Shankly » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:19 pm wrote:Apparently Southampton is Ing's home club and his family are from there etc, so it will suit him.

A loan deal looks the best option for the first 12 months as the lad has had two serious knee injuries.

Maybe we should have got Fekir on a similar Loan deal...


He seemed to get a great reception when he came on. Maybe that's why

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:08 pm
by bunglemark2
Rabiot to sign a pre-contract in Jan and come in on a free? Not bad if it happens but his sulking over missing the France squad is a red flag for me.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:50 am
by Eagle
Italian transfer window shuts at 8pm tonight. Wonder if Migs or anyone else might secure a move.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:50 am
by 7_Kewell
Eagle » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:50 am wrote:Italian transfer window shuts at 8pm tonight. Wonder if Migs or anyone else might secure a move.

Migs, Markovic, Origi and Klavan all need to go. However, I'd be shocked if we got money or any of them. Imagine a loan or two will be done, nothing more.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:15 am
by ycsatbjywtbiastkamb
7_Kewell » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:50 am wrote:
Eagle » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:50 am wrote:Italian transfer window shuts at 8pm tonight. Wonder if Migs or anyone else might secure a move.

Migs, Markovic, Origi and Klavan all need to go. However, I'd be shocked if we got money or any of them. Imagine a loan or two will be done, nothing more.


Might be worth holding on to Klavan given how injury prone Matip is, then again we still have VVD, Lovren, Gomez and even Fabinho could play there in an emergency so I guess we could let him go.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:26 am
by 7_Kewell
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:15 am wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:50 am wrote:
Eagle » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:50 am wrote:Italian transfer window shuts at 8pm tonight. Wonder if Migs or anyone else might secure a move.

Migs, Markovic, Origi and Klavan all need to go. However, I'd be shocked if we got money or any of them. Imagine a loan or two will be done, nothing more.


Might be worth holding on to Klavan given how injury prone Matip is, then again we still have VVD, Lovren, Gomez and even Fabinho could play there in an emergency so I guess we could let him go.

I don't mind Klavan, but given his age (32) it seems unfair to ask him to be a bench player. I imagine he wants more game time, hence the rumours we're willing to let him move on.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:32 am
by Eagle
Klavan is in Italy having a medical with Cagliari. 2 mil fee. Would have liked him to see out the final year of his contract but I guess if he's determined to play first team football Klopp is going to respect his wishes considering we have VVD, Gomez, Matip and Lovren. Bit risky considering the injury record of Gomez, Matip and Lovren.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:57 pm
by Klopptomaniac
He was alright Klavan, came in and did the job he was brought in for. Can't ask for more than that. Best of luck to him.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:33 pm
by 7_Kewell
Eagle » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:32 am wrote:Klavan is in Italy having a medical with Cagliari. 2 mil fee. Would have liked him to see out the final year of his contract but I guess if he's determined to play first team football Klopp is going to respect his wishes considering we have VVD, Gomez, Matip and Lovren. Bit risky considering the injury record of Gomez, Matip and Lovren.

Have a feeling Nathaniel Phillips will be introduced to the squad. He played a part in the pre-season tour and traveled with the squad to the USA.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:08 pm
by electrum
Hasn't Fabinho played at CB for his previous club ? Maybe he could be an option if it was really needed.

Re: Rumour of the day - For the miserable tw@ts amongst you

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:09 pm
by Ghost of Shankly
2m for Klavan is peanuts. I thought we could have got considerably more than 2m.