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by **Greavesie** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:47 pm

Jadson? is he Costa Rican?

by **metalhead** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:24 am

Its Joel Campbell you noobs

Anyways they will end up with Eden Hazard

by **ethanr** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:49 am

maguskwt wrote:
stmichael wrote:put this in the funny vid thread but i'll put it in here aswell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDBLSUKJiDY

" I hope I didn't send it mistakenly to Tottenham"

That was hilarious.

by **Kharhaz** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:42 am

We can all laugh at what is happening to Arsenal, but its a scary future when you think about it. If FIFA find nothing wrong with Man City and the whole Etihad issue, we could well find the english league going the same way as the old American one, when New York Cosmos simply bought the best available and became a one team league. That is the way Man City are heading. We could well end up as a league comparable with the scottish one, whereas the biggest spenders reap the rewards.

If UEFA find nothing wrong, then the Financial Fair Play rules could ruin the English league. And we will all think the same, we laughed at Arsenal.

by **crim cram** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:49 am

Kharhaz wrote:We can all laugh at what is happening to Arsenal, but its a scary future when you think about it. If FIFA find nothing wrong with Man City and the whole Etihad issue, we could well find the english league going the same way as the old American one, when New York Cosmos simply bought the best available and became a one team league. That is the way Man City are heading. We could well end up as a league comparable with the scottish one, whereas the biggest spenders reap the rewards.

If UEFA find nothing wrong, then the Financial Fair Play rules could ruin the English league. And we will all think the same, we laughed at Arsenal.

That's true, hopefully financial fair play will have some teeth. I think our owners feel the same.

by **Greavesie** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:28 pm

I think their problems are being a little overstated tbh, with a fully fit 11 they should be fine. Once all the suspensions and injuries clear up they should be back to their winning ways. They just aren't helping themselves though with suspensions galore and even Wenger breaking rules.

If they get kicked out of the Champions League then they will have real problems but let's wait and see what happens

I'm more interested to see if he'll play Nasri

by **Kenny Kan** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:07 pm

My mate on FB (Arsenal fan) wrote;

Frimpong, super Frimpong, joined Arsenal at the age of nine, loved by, Arsene Wenger, cos he didn't cost a thing to sign! (in the flintstones tune) haha

by **neil** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:14 pm

crim cram wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:We can all laugh at what is happening to Arsenal, but its a scary future when you think about it. If FIFA find nothing wrong with Man City and the whole Etihad issue, we could well find the english league going the same way as the old American one, when New York Cosmos simply bought the best available and became a one team league. That is the way Man City are heading. We could well end up as a league comparable with the scottish one, whereas the biggest spenders reap the rewards.

If UEFA find nothing wrong, then the Financial Fair Play rules could ruin the English league. And we will all think the same, we laughed at Arsenal.

That's true, hopefully financial fair play will have some teeth. I think our owners feel the same.

Real madrid have been doing this for years, when they were successful no-one batted an eye.

by **ethanr** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:36 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:My mate on FB (Arsenal fan) wrote;

Frimpong, super Frimpong, joined Arsenal at the age of nine, loved by, Arsene Wenger, cos he didn't cost a thing to sign! (in the flintstones tune) haha

Brilliant.

by **Bad Bob** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:03 pm

Not a.rsed about the A.rse anymore. They're behind is the standings now and that's where they'll stay. Next.

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:33 am

neil wrote:Real madrid have been doing this for years, when they were successful no-one batted an eye.

Thats true, I also find it funny how when teams like Madrid, or Barcelona, or AC Milan, generally any team other than an english one, can buy any player for a ludicrous amount, as you say, not an eye lid was batted, but when its an english club, well, something has to be done about it.

But thats not my concern. My concern is, if City get away with this Etihad deal, its no longer a level playing field. Aside from Chelsea, no other club will be able to compete in the market for players, or indeed to keep hold of the talent they have. If this Etihad deal is found to have nothing wrong with it, well, its advantage to Man City.

by **zarababe** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:58 pm

Nasri deal agreed with Manc City ..

by **metalhead** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:14 pm

zarababe wrote:Nasri deal agreed with Manc City ..

they are well and truly F'ed if they don't replace Fabregas and Nasri.

Hows ramadan going zara?

by **aCe'** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:28 pm

Lets all hope they dont end up getting Hazard... If they do sign him, they are back to having a better attacking lineup than both us and Spurs imo..

by **zarababe** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:34 pm

metalhead wrote:
zarababe wrote:Nasri deal agreed with Manc City ..

they are well and truly F'ed if they don't replace Fabregas and Nasri.

Hows ramadan going zara?

Fasting is going well - your's?

Check this article out re: Premership footballers also fasting:

"Fasting and football. How do top-flight Muslims cope?"

Ramadan offers a unique challenge as footballers train and play while their normal eating habits are suspended

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport....87.html

Clubs increasingly like to control every aspect of their players' fitness, testing them weekly, providing individual exercise plans and dictating diet. Sometimes, however, outside influences come into play.

For the increasing number of Muslims in the Premier and Football League, normal eating habits are currently suspended, for this is the month of Ramadan.

During Ramadan, which runs from 1 to 29 August this year, devotees are expected to refrain from taking in food or liquid, smoking and sex, from before sunrise until sundown. This is intended to teach patience, spirituality, humility and submissiveness to Allah. It is one of the five pillars of Islam, the others being a declaration of faith, giving to charity, praying the five daily prayers and the Haj pilgrimage to Mecca.

Managers and coaches may question the wisdom of a footballer having to train and play when fasting, but this is something that Muslims know is part of their life.

Some, like the former Tottenham and West Ham striker, Frédéric Kanouté, are strict observers. Kanouté, now at Seville, has been a practising Muslim since the age of 20. His faith, insists Kanouté, has never presented itself as a problem in his relationship with the coaching staff, team-mates or fans. But when it comes to Ramadan, they pepper him with questions.

"They're quite curious, yes. They wonder why I don't eat and ask all these questions, but you have to answer them. It's good also because it's witnessing the religion and we can talk about that. They see me praying in the dressing room, I don't think of how people look at me, I'm just natural and it's my way.

"Islam has helped me to be this way, so this is normal. It's a path you take to keep you calm, to help you think about the place you live in, to love your neighbour. It's strange when I hear about all these problems of terrorism because it's the opposite of what I understood for Islam."

In a diverse Premier League, an increasing number of players are followers of Islam. You'll see them cup their hands in silent prayer before kick-off, then brush them over their face. Kolo and Yaya Touré, Nicolas Anelka and Samir Nasri are all talented players who would not want any fuss over their faith, but during the month of Ramadan, games can become even more of a challenge than usual.

In 2009, after only half an hour of Inter's 1-1 draw with Bari, the fasting Sulley Muntari was substituted, with manager Jose Mourinho stating that Ramadan had "not arrived at the ideal moment for a player to play a football match". His comments drew widespread criticism, which Mourinho later clarified by saying: "Muntari's decision is not to be criticised because it is a question of faith and religion. That means that I accept it. I never said Muntari should forget his religion and practice."

Some players compromise. Anelka has said that he initially fasted in daylight hours as prescribed, but "I realised I often got injured just after the period of Ramadan, so I don't observe it strictly any more".

A similar approach is followed by Arsenal striker Marouane Chamakh. "I have no problem fasting during Ramadan, it becomes normal. The day before a game and on match days I do not fast, but I'll make up the lost days later."

Ipswich striker Nathan Ellington converted to Islam seven years ago, and has just set up the Association of Muslim Footballers, whose purpose is to inform non-believers. He said educating the footballing authorities will help alleviate the type of comments that Mourinho came out with, which he described as "unfair".

Ellington added: "When I'm playing, I won't fast, but I'll make up for the missed day afterwards. For training, there's not a problem either, as you can get your hydration and nutrients with the suhoor [the early pre-dawn breakfast] which then helps. The only difference is afterwards when the rest of the players go off [to eat] and you have to hang on for a while longer, until the iftar meal at sunset."

The Millwall winger Hameur Bouazza admitted fasting can be problematic, but said it was part of his faith. "I'm proud to be a Muslim. I'm not going to say [combining fasting and football] is easy. Ramadan is hard, and I try to do my best every time. You know God is there to help us, we believe in him and he believes in us as well. We just need to pray and believe in him."

The issue of fasting and playing is a tricky one with the religious needs of the player somewhat at odds with the footballing needs of his manager and the club. Until now, there have not been any defining guidelines on the issue, but as more Muslim players find a place in the top leagues of Europe the issue of fasting during the holy month – which arrives annually 10 days earlier than the previous year – will not be going away.

Premier League Muslims

Marouane Chamakh, Abou Diaby, Samir Nasri (left), Bacary Sagna, Armand Traoré Arsenal Habib Beye Aston Villa Nicolas Anelka, Salomon Kalou Chelsea

Marouane Fellaini (left) Everton

Hatem Ben Arfa, Cheick Tioté Newcastle

Edin Dzeko (left), Kolo Touré, Yaya Touré Manchester City

Adel Taarabt Queen's Park Rangers

Ahmed Elmohamady Sunderland

Younes Kaboul (left) Tottenham

Youssuf Mulumbu West Bromwich

Ali Al Habsi, Mohamed Diame Wigan

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