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[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Listen ,Andy Carroll was touted as one of the best young English strikers in the game in his time at Newcastle ,and no one could
argue he was nigh on unplayable when he wore the black and white stripes of Newcastle ,but a culmination of pressure from the price
tag and having to completely alter his game to adapt to the Liverpool way has had a detrimental effect on his game as a whole .

Lets face facts, Liverpool would be foolish to let a young player who has the potential (and time on his side )to grow into a
good striker ,because when he does score they are never tap ins ,what they give us is a tantalising glimpse into the future .

I have the feeling as soon as Harry the twitch takes the England managers job ,Carroll and Rooney will be his main strike force .
Lets see if certain fans and the media still harp on about the lads supposed lack quality when he's England's battering ram .

[D___C]

nigh on BS.. his signing flabbergasted the country, and the opening page of this thread summed up the bemusement. He has been shocking from day one because hes a midtable standard English player. He couldnt trap a bag of cement, his movement is non existant, when he "runs" its as if hes running in a swamp, he has less than 1 in 5, and his technical inability makes players around him look worse. To quote Jason McAteer after the derby, if we had a quality #9 we would have had a very different season.

Tonight in Fernando Llorente, we have seen a quality forward.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

nigh on BS.. his signing flabbergasted the country, and the opening page of this thread summed up the bemusement. He has been shocking from day one because hes a midtable standard English player. He couldnt trap a bag of cement, his movement is non existant, when he "runs" its as if hes running in a swamp, he has less than 1 in 5, and his technical inability makes players around him look worse. To quote Jason McAteer after the derby, if we had a quality #9 we would have had a very different season.

Tonight in Fernando Llorente, we have seen a quality forward.

apart from skrtel he`s been our most consistent player over the past 2 months, you countered that argument by saying that was mostly against teams like oldham, brighton and wolves (even though he was probably the MoM when we beat united in the cup) and now he puts in a really good performance in against an everton team who were on the crest of a wave after great wins against the likes of city, chelsea and spurs and all you can do is have a go at him?
i`ve noticed on other sites even his biggest critics have come out and praised his derby performance and his contribution since christmas but not you?
sorry but i just cant take you views seriously.

[stmichael]

nigh on BS.. his signing flabbergasted the country, and the opening page of this thread summed up the bemusement. He has been shocking from day one because hes a midtable standard English player. He couldnt trap a bag of cement, his movement is non existant, when he "runs" its as if hes running in a swamp, he has less than 1 in 5, and his technical inability makes players around him look worse. To quote Jason McAteer after the derby, if we had a quality #9 we would have had a very different season.

Tonight in Fernando Llorente, we have seen a quality forward.

yawn

[Thommo's perm]

Kerrys like Fatal Attraction
Fu'ckin bunny boiler!

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

nigh on BS.. his signing flabbergasted the country, and the opening page of this thread summed up the bemusement. He has been shocking from day one because hes a midtable standard English player. He couldnt trap a bag of cement, his movement is non existant, when he "runs" its as if hes running in a swamp, he has less than 1 in 5, and his technical inability makes players around him look worse. To quote Jason McAteer after the derby, if we had a quality #9 we would have had a very different season.

Tonight in Fernando Llorente, we have seen a quality forward.

yawn

i wouldnt mind though mate but a lot of our really poor performances like sunderland away, united away, stoke at home and wigan away he was on the bench.
and some of the other poor results where he was in the starting line up he never really had a chance, look at city away, he played up front away at the league leaders in a team that had no suarez, no gerrard and no bellamy in the starting XI.
even that terrible result away at bolton, carroll set up bellamy for our goal and he had a decent game, especially first half, that game was the start of his good run of form.
to try and blame our poor form this season solely on carroll is ridiculous, it`s just a lazy argument.

[Benny The Noon]

Andy Carroll is now unbeaten in his last 7 starts for Liverpool .

[Boxscarf]

Andy Carroll is now unbeaten in his last 7 starts for Liverpool .

Aren't we unbeaten when Carroll, Gerrard and Suarez start together?

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

actually i`ve just gone through our poor results this season to see how many carroll actually played in.
we have had 8 losses in the league, in four of them carroll wasnt in the starting XI ( stoke away, united away, arsenal home, sunderland away)
the four defeats he started in were - spurs away ( we had 2 men sent off), fulham away (team doing okay until spearing sent off), man city away (as i said in a previous post he was in a team away at the league leaders with no suarez, gerrard or bellamy in the starting XI) and bolton away (terrible performance by the team but carroll had an okay game himself, one of 2 players that left the game with any credit (the other was bellamy))
as for the infamous draws - sunderland home - he started, norwich home - on bench, swansea home - in side, wigan away - on bench, blackburn home - in side, stoke home - on bench.
he only started in half those drawn games.
people are blaming carroll for our poor results but he was on the bench for half of them, and as for the four losses he was involved in, in 2 of the games liverpool players were sent off.

[Boxscarf]

If Andy starts scoring goals it will be very hard for people to criticise him and slate him to the hills. It's as simple as that. A striker is judged on the amount of goals he scores, this is the reality of the matter. Fernando Torres has set a fair few goals up for his teammates this season, but his goals to games ratio is horrible, especially considering he cost £50m.

Andy needs to start doing what strikers do best and that's score goals.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

If Andy starts scoring goals it will be very hard for people to criticise him and slate him to the hills. It's as simple as that. A striker is judged on the amount of goals he scores, this is the reality of the matter. Fernando Torres has set a fair few goals up for his teammates this season, but his goals to games ratio is horrible, especially considering he cost £50m.

Andy needs to start doing what strikers do best and that's score goals.

i dont think anyone is denying he hasnt scored enough goals but he has only started in half of our poor results, it`s not just andy not stepping up to the plate.

[Benny The Noon]

Andy Carroll is now unbeaten in his last 7 starts for Liverpool .

Aren't we unbeaten when Carroll, Gerrard and Suarez start together?

We are yes and have scored 11 goals I think

[stmichael]

the midfield has been the biggest problem for me in a majority of games this season. yes we've missed a lot of chances but at other times the supply line and service from the midfield has been nothing short of abysmal. for carroll to flourish he needs guys running off him and with gerrard and suarez the other day he had that. earlier in the season he had nobody within 20-30 yards of him at times.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

nigh on BS.. his signing flabbergasted the country, and the opening page of this thread summed up the bemusement. He has been shocking from day one because hes a midtable standard English player. He couldnt trap a bag of cement, his movement is non existant, when he "runs" its as if hes running in a swamp, he has less than 1 in 5, and his technical inability makes players around him look worse. To quote Jason McAteer after the derby, if we had a quality #9 we would have had a very different season.

Tonight in Fernando Llorente, we have seen a quality forward.

I had more than an inkling you would be amongst the first to proffer a reply ,although  even you will soon have to accept Carroll is
going nowhere any time soon . Lets face facts if a club pays 35 million for a striker who they deemed to have serious potential
for the future ,then its probably safe to assume he will be afforded more time than your average free transfer .

It would  probably be better for you in the long run if you begin your climbdown now rather than prolong the denial .

[Thommo's perm]

KK has taken a considerable risk by playing then not playing him, starting then benching him. We can only assume it is because he and his coaching staff have come to some decision about how to get the best out of Carroll. They will have reached this conclusion based on his performances on the pitch, in training and general behaviour about Melwood, Anfield and the city in general.
I would suggest there is no way they havent known what he is up to 24/7. So we must accept that even though some of us may have wanted him to play every game in order that he develops and progresses, KK and the coaches have chosen exactly when he plays and when he doesnt. And dont forget he hasnt had an injury since hes been here, so that hasnt been a factor.
Hopefully this plan works and he is right physically and mentally to help us recapture the glory days.