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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:30 am

Mauricio Pellegrino who played for us when Rafa was in charge is the new Southampton manager, he was getting on a bit when Rafa brought him over and wasn't the most mobile of players but Rafa often spoke about how intelligent Mauricio was and what a great footballing brain he had. He later joined us as a coach as part of Rafa's backroom team.
Who knows, maybe we are not completely out of the running for VVD.
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Postby maguskwt » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:05 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:30 am wrote:Mauricio Pellegrino who played for us when Rafa was in charge is the new Southampton manager, he was getting on a bit when Rafa brought him over and wasn't the most mobile of players but Rafa often spoke about how intelligent Mauricio was and what a great footballing brain he had. He later joined us as a coach as part of Rafa's backroom team.
Who knows, maybe we are not completely out of the running for VVD.

I remembered him to be pretty solid playing for us...
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:09 am

maguskwt » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:05 am wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:30 am wrote:Mauricio Pellegrino who played for us when Rafa was in charge is the new Southampton manager, he was getting on a bit when Rafa brought him over and wasn't the most mobile of players but Rafa often spoke about how intelligent Mauricio was and what a great footballing brain he had. He later joined us as a coach as part of Rafa's backroom team.
Who knows, maybe we are not completely out of the running for VVD.

I remembered him to be pretty solid playing for us...


He wasn't here long as a player mate (6 months) but he joined Rafa's coaching staff in 2008 and left when Rafa was sacked.
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Postby kazza » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:45 pm

I think him coming was more about him becoming a coach than playing for us, I don't think he played much. If anything he owes us one.
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Postby parchpea » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:04 pm

Unlikely to happen but Mbappe linked again, I think we will make a proposal to Monaco and the player and if FSG where ever to go way beyond their comfort zone he fits the profile.

Summer dreams and transfer madness but Salah, Mbappe and Mane would be incredible  :love:  :help
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Postby kazza » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:06 pm

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05:00, 24 JUN 2017
“Recruitment ultimately comes down to two things: availability and affordability. That’s the nuts and bolts of it.

“We all know who the best players are, but we are trying to find the rough diamonds we can polish up as well as being in the market for the top players.”

They were the words of Brendan Rodgers to the ECHO, back in the late summer of 2012, as you may well remember.

Liverpool’s former boss was speaking in the wake of his first summer as Reds manager when he had ushered the unwanted Andy Carroll out of the the Anfield door but failed to adequately replace him.

Club owners FSG had refused to sanction a deal for Clint Dempsey and other options didn’t fit the bill. Rodgers would wait to strengthen, with Daniel Sturridge and Philippe Coutinho arriving in the January window just a few months later.

Those words may have been uttered more than five years ago - and by a manager long gone - but they remain fundamental to the business Liverpool will try to do this summer.

Where Rodgers spoke of “polishing rough diamonds” in terms of affordability, it is rather availability which will prove the most difficult hurdle for Jurgen Klopp as he seeks to build on this week’s mood-enhancing arrival of Mohamed Salah.

Make no mistake, Liverpool’s parameters for affordability are very different now.

They have money available though they are not inclined to shout about it, perhaps explaining their rather different views of the Salah fee than that publicly declared to the stock exchange by Roma as one which could rise to 50m euros.

And let’s be frank, FSG should have money available to their manager, and lots of it.

Klopp after all kept his powder dry in January when his intended targets weren’t available - there’s that word cropping up again - a decision which cost Liverpool in the short term but which can be mitigated by a strong and decisive summer window.

His transfer dealings in the previous two windows have delivered a net profit when it could reasonably have been expected to see an investment of at least £30m in each. He will also generate his own money to spend with a clear-out of fringe players, even if Napoli’s £11m for Alberto Moreno was deemed short of Liverpool’s £15m asking price earlier this week.

With Salah in the bag, fans will naturally look to see which position the Reds will move to strengthen next.

A centre-back for many, a midfielder for some, a left-back for almost everybody.

The club are taking a more fluid approach and insist they will take opportunities when availability arises with players of the quality they seek. Klopp himself has spoken of how limited that supply of players actually is.

Spanish reports that the Reds had bid 100m euros for Kylian Mbappe weren’t accurate as at this stage the club don’t yet believe he is a player who might be available to them, with Real Madrid seemingly in the driving seat for any move for the coveted Monaco striker.

The fact that Liverpool are interested and now at least in the conversations for those top players is though a significant step forward.

Remember 2012. Remember Clint Dempsey. Yes, Clint Dempsey.

Other positions too could be hit by the availability dilemma.

UEFA’s decision this week to allow RB Leipzig to take part in the Champions League after apparently overcoming the dual ownership issues arising from Red Bull Salzburg undoubtedly dealt the Reds a blow in their chances of prising Naby Keita away from the Bundesliga runners-up.

Ryan Sessegnon was favoured as a promising left back but prefers staying in London, most likely with Spurs while Southampton decided to make Virgil van Dijk very unavailable, to Liverpool at least, even with £60m set to be waved under their noses.

As avenues close Liverpool will pursue others with Klopp constantly on the phone with sporting director Michael Edwards and FSG president Mike Gordon, even as he soaked up the Ibiza sun on “holiday”, the three essentially masterminding Anfield’s summer business.


There is no endless supply of money of course, there never is, but there are now few deals from which Liverpool would have to walk away from due to financial constraints alone.
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Postby Doeboy » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:09 pm

parchpea » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:04 pm wrote:Unlikely to happen but Mbappe linked again, I think we will make a proposal to Monaco and the player and if FSG where ever to go way beyond their comfort zone he fits the profile.

Summer dreams and transfer madness but Salah, Mbappe and Mane would be incredible  :love:  :help


Heard from someone reliable that Arsenal are trying very hard for him, Went onto say the lad is up for going there. Apparently he would like to go to Madrid but worried about playing time there. Although being reported today that Zidane really wants him there and is promising first team football by moving on one of Ronaldo, Bale or Benzema.

We might have enquired but realistically don't think we would have expected to get anywhere with it. Probably only reason Arsenal are in there is due to the french connection with Wenger.
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Postby parchpea » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:20 pm

Would say our chances are slim to none on Mpabbe but whichever club pulls it off will still make money on him, you put £100m down now he could easy go for double that in 3 years, the markets crazy.

Transfer records are often broken, Mbappe costing £100m at his age and potential is £20m a year over 5 years and imagine what you can achieve with him in your side.

I hope he goes to Spain as if another Premiership team takes him its bad news for us and the rest, I feel hes the ability to bring a title on his own.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:50 pm

We are being linked with a £30m move for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain again  :no
Underwhelming isn't the word.
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Postby maguskwt » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:15 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:50 pm wrote:We are being linked with a £30m move for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain again  :no
Underwhelming isn't the word.

why would we need another attacker...
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Postby Doeboy » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:26 am

£30m for AOC would be insane comsidering he isnt even a regular for them and in the last year of his contract. Don't believe it for a minute
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Postby redshade » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:27 am

I thought snapping Salah ends everything on the Ox chase.

We need to start sorting our defensive frailties next.
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Postby redshade » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:52 am

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/liverpool- ... der-report

Lol for 70m they can keep him. With 70m we can fix x2 areas via quality players.
Saints are having a laugh im sure they just want Chelsea to splash the cash.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:58 am

redshade wrote:I thought snapping Salah ends everything on the Ox chase.

We need to start sorting our defensive frailties next.
maguskwt » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:15 am wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:50 pm wrote:We are being linked with a £30m move for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain again  :no
Underwhelming isn't the word.




why would we need another attacker...


Don't forget lads that Oxlade-Chamberlain see's himself as a CM these days, apparently Jurgen is a huge admirer of him as well  :(
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Postby Eagle » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:43 am

He's not good enough to play in a 2 man CM but I actually think he'd fit quite nicely into our 3 man midfield while also being able to provide cover in the wide areas and even right back. But he wouldn't get ahead of Lallana and is always injured. Doesn't sound realistic to me and I think it's just agent driven as he's into the last 12 months of his contract. I reckon he'll sign a new contract at Arsenal.
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